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Old 09-20-2011, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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lol yeah that's totally because of the boycott. I hear the boycott was responsible for the financial crisis
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The boycott is responsible for exactly 0% of BoA's troubles.
Proof?
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Metro West- Boston, MA
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Yeah, this.

Conclusion: the bulk of Americans don't see illegal immigration as an important issue one way or the other. That bodes well for freedom.

Cliffnotes: we're (still) winning.

Are you one of those people who thinks that if they keep repeating a lie that it has to be true? That's rhetorical BTW....

Most Americans Think Immigration Is a Serious Issue, But Other Issues Rank Higher - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:45 AM
 
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Are you one of those people who thinks that if they keep repeating a lie that it has to be true? That's rhetorical BTW....

Most Americans Think Immigration Is a Serious Issue, But Other Issues Rank Higher - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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Still, the poll finds that addressing immigration is not a top priority for Americans.
From your own source.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Not surprisingly, few states have chosen to follow AZ's "lead" on immigration, mostly because they did the math and figured out they just can't afford it (due to the legal cost from defending lawsuits, the added resources needed to implement, and most of all the economic damage to their respective states). Basically, once you get past all the rhetoric, it turns out the negatives far outweigh the dubious "positives".

And as already noted, the majority of folks everywhere have more important priorities right now. Besides, the only ones really making a big fuss about "illegals" aren't professionals or hi-skills jobs anyway. Instead, they mostly just seem to be low-income, unskilled whites who resent facing added competition now in the low-end of the job market. For example you never hear about computer programmers, managers, teachers, engineers, or doctors complaining about "illegals"!
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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Not surprisingly, few states have chosen to follow AZ's "lead" on immigration, mostly because they did the math and figured out they just can't afford it (due to the legal cost from defending lawsuits, the added resources needed to implement, and most of all the economic damage to their respective states). Basically, once you get past all the rhetoric, it turns out the negatives far outweigh the dubious "positives".

And as already noted, the majority of folks everywhere have more important priorities right now. Besides, the only ones really making a big fuss about "illegals" aren't professionals or hi-skills jobs anyway. Instead, they mostly just seem to be low-income, unskilled whites who resent facing added competition now in the low-end of the job market. For example you never hear about computer programmers, managers, teachers, engineers, or doctors complaining about "illegals"!
Low-income, unskilled whites? So I guess there are no low-skilled blacks or other miniorities that have lost their job opportunties to illegal aliens? Why do you care so little about these Americans? Of course you won't hear white collared professionals complaining about losing their jobs to illegal aliens since most illegals don't even have a high school education, duh. Some of those professions have been lost to outsourcing though. Another plague on American job opportunities.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:30 AM
 
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Low-income, unskilled whites? So I guess there are no low-skilled blacks or other miniorities that have lost their job opportunties to illegal aliens? Why do you care so little about these Americans?
lol wow even for you that's some pretty brazen word-in-mouth-stuffing.

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Of course you won't hear white collared professionals complaining about losing their jobs to illegal aliens since most illegals don't even have a high school education, duh. Some of those professions have been lost to outsourcing though. Another plague on American job opportunities.
Competition is a plague?
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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lol wow even for you that's some pretty brazen word-in-mouth-stuffing.



Competition is a plague?
Its a plague when Americans IN the USA have to compete with people who have NO right to be here. An it aint just unskilled whites who suffer. Many SKILLED people of ANY race are hurt like carpenters, plumbers, an other tradesman.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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Competition: a plague when foreigners win. Well done.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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Not surprisingly, few states have chosen to follow AZ's "lead" on immigration, mostly because they did the math and figured out they just can't afford it (due to the legal cost from defending lawsuits, the added resources needed to implement, and most of all the economic damage to their respective states). Basically, once you get past all the rhetoric, it turns out the negatives far outweigh the dubious "positives".

With a new administration there will be the probability of many changes such as the challenges to state lawsuits. As was pointed out, Arizona actually gained economically due to the LaRaza boycott. The Dept of Labor took us to the dark side by overstepping their power and going around congress so that should be an easy fix. The pro illegals seem to forget that anything that has occurred without congressional approval can be reversed and strengthened in the same way.

And as already noted, the majority of folks everywhere have more important priorities right now. Besides, the only ones really making a big fuss about "illegals" aren't professionals or hi-skills jobs anyway. Instead, they mostly just seem to be low-income, unskilled whites who resent facing added competition now in the low-end of the job market. For example you never hear about computer programmers, managers, teachers, engineers, or doctors complaining about "illegals"!
Considering the black unemployment rate is out of site right now, it could be a boon for Republicans to come in to save the day for unskilled blacks. With jobs being the main priority I can see this as a probability. I read recently that they are finally able to do cross referencing within the data bases for those that have overstayed their visas so that could really help on the professional end.

Not sure where you've been but there are many doctors complaining that clinics are closing due to non paying illegals and teachers that complain about class size. And many of these professionals are tired of footing the bill for entitlements for people that aren't here legally.


Could you please expand on the dubious positives?
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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Competition: a plague when foreigners win. Well done.

Competition is good when all the players are playing by the same rules. Well done.
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