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Old 09-30-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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Well folks we can continue on this path & look forward to more beheadings here in America or we can vote in representatives who care about securing America & its citizens. The choice is ours! And if you do drugs, You are a big part of this problem !

 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:46 PM
 
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And of course you remember all of the later updates that eventually came out on this nearly year-old news?...
I remember the rebuttals that were not proven. I am not going back and digging through this news story from a year ago but the Arizona desert is treacherous with a lot of suspicious deaths. It is not unlikely that beheadings among other violent deaths occured there. It is a fact that some illegal aliens have been drug mules and deals can and do go bad.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:46 PM
 
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It's the governments fault for not upholding the laws. The drug smugglers are shooting AR-15's and AK-47's at each other in the Arizona desert near public roads and highways. Last week a drug mule shot at a rest stop because police officers were there. They found his drugs and his AK-47, last I heard they had a "person of interest" in custody. The cost of treating drug users in America will come out of all our pockets. Also, we'll have to pay for the incarceration of drug users too!

National Drug Threat Assessment 2011

http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs44/44849/44849p.pdf

Impact on Health and Healthcare Systems

Page 4

NDIC estimates yearly drug-related health-care cost to be more than $11 billion including both direct and indirect costs related to medical intervention, such as emergency services, in-patient drug treatment, and drug use prevention and treatment research. In addition, the nation's health is plagued by numerous other ills arising from drug abuse, including driving under the influence of drugs, parental neglect, and exposure to toxic methamphetamine laboratories.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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When were the borders ¨secure¨ before?...

Reread my post.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Well folks we can continue on this path & look forward to more beheadings here in America or we can vote in representatives who care about securing America & its citizens. The choice is ours! And if you do drugs, You are a big part of this problem !
Then the win-win would be to legalize.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Pa
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No, no need to secure the border. lets just accept and go with the flow. Hey lets make all those harmless drugs legal so that we not only have to contend with drunk drivers but stoners too. We all know how much fun it is to work with stoners. Yeah I know they will only do their crap when not at work. Really???? At least a drunk you can smell.
Now to be honest I have waste little compassion on addicts. Its a self inflicted problem and we were all taught what happens when you do drugs and some idiots just can't learn. However I am thinking about the innocent people hurt by drugs. The drive by shootings, society in general.
We went to war over 3000+ casualties on 911. Yet every year US citizens fall victim to the drug cartels, illegals driving drunk, criminals that cross the border and ply their ways only to be deported and return. Return because we do not secure ourselves against a very real threat. A threat that has already cost us lives measured in the thousands. Our prison population is testimony to this fact.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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Then the win-win would be to legalize.
No, that would be a lose-lose for Americans and this country.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Then the win-win would be to legalize.
Win win for who? The users certainly. Society? I think not as addictions will rise and the productive of our society have yet another burden to deal with.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Win win for who? The users certainly. Society? I think not as addictions will rise and the productive of our society have yet another burden to deal with.
Because the the drug war and the costs of incarceration isn't? And of course it would be a win for users - it would get the government off their back and on to more important things.

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Old 09-30-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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No, that would be a lose-lose for Americans and this country.
Because making the cartels millionnaires is a win?
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