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Old 10-08-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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Why is it that the illegals that come here from South of the border to seek a better life, can't change their life in their country? If they look at their children and feel nothing but hopelessness then why can't they get enough back bone to change their country, and way of life as many other nations have around the world ? Is it the lack of courage/Backbone? Or is it the fact that it is easier to steal and sneak around like a common thief than try to make that kind of change where you are born? Is it truly easier to come here and take from the people who have done this already?

Coming here in the back of a truck, or swimming across a river, is no sign of bravely. It takes such a coward, to run from its own nation, and not to try and fight or even die for change for a better tomorrow. I and many others have given and lost so much in order to keep freedom here, and we don’t like the idea of giving it away to nothing more than a coward that runs from its own country. You have to earn Citizenship in the United States, not steal it and live in the safety we provide from us as you do.

There is a process and laws, and for those that don’t try to follow it, then you need to be deported, and labeled a thief here.
Amen.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is what open borders is all about folks.
We have no enforcement; what we have is come and go at your pleasure.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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No more excuses for illiteracy (especially from you "English-Only" yucks) and just flat out saying dumb stuff. Hearing other incorrect phrasing from the same member (with multiple insults and name-calling after corrections and speaking my opinion), I don't know what they believe to be true. Until they clarify what was meant, I'm taking the statement at face value.

And if you continue to put words in another member's mouth without their input as to what they probably meant, it will need to be hashed out by a higher authority...

The insults towards me did it, mocking my service and insinuating that I would buy a false Certificate of Citizenship (for $125), making a whole new ball game...

The gloves are off...

BTW, it isn't solely "papers" to cross the Southern border, it must be at a defined Port of Entry, with a U.S. passport, Resident Card, or valid visa/Border Crossing Card as appropriate...
When you know damned well what someone means why do you continually pretend that you don't? "English only yucks"? What's that suppose to mean? I don't know of anyone who is proposing that. English as our official langauge, yes! Not the same thing.

There have been plenty of insults hurled in here by your side including you, so pot, kettle, black. Example is your above remark. A don't think a "yuck" is exactly a compliment.

Where the heck am I putting words in someone elses mouth? I don't nit-pick and know what someone means even though they may not express themselves with exact perfection. I think you do also but as I said you just don't like their message.

Quote: "Crossing the Southern border is against the law and that's all the reason we need to deport border crossing illegal aliens. By protecting our border we attemp to keep out illegal alien scum".

Now just who wouldn't know that this person is talking about crossing our southern border illegally when they read this quote in its entirety? Who in the world would take that to mean that no one can cross our southern border even with the proper papers?

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Old 10-08-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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When you know damned well what someone means why do you continually pretend that you don't? "English only yucks"? What's that suppose to mean? I don't know of anyone who is proposing that. English as our official langauge, yes! Not the same thing.

There have been plenty of insults hurled in here by your side including you, so pot, kettle, black. Example is your above remark. A don't think a "yuck" is exactly a compliment...
You are misinterpreting my terminology, case in point...

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...Where the heck am I putting words in someone elses mouth? I don't nit-pick and know what someone means even though they may not express themselves with exact perfection. I think you do also but as I said you just don't like their message.

Quote: "Crossing the Southern border is against the law and that's all the reason we need to deport border crossing illegal aliens. By protecting our border we attemp to keep out illegal alien scum".

Now just who wouldn't know that this person is talking about crossing our southern border illegally when they read this quote in its entirety? Who in the world would take that to mean that no one can cross our southern border even with the proper papers?
You overhear a complaint:

¨There is a streetlight by my office that hasn´t worked all Summer. It isn´t on when I go into work, and isn´t on when I leave.¨


Correct the claim, without knowing or asking any further information. Do you base your opinion on how the person appears? Is it worth considering that news article from some months ago about a maintenance budget problem with the city, since a Hispanic-surname employee embezzled from their Public Works Department?

I know there is some here that would make the immediate leap that ¨illegals¨ have bankrupted the municipality...

And the city also employs ¨illegal aliens¨...

I´m taking it at face value, your translation to put words in someone´s mouth won´t be heeded by me...
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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You are misinterpreting my terminology, case in point...



You overhear a complaint:

¨There is a streetlight by my office that hasn´t worked all Summer. It isn´t on when I go into work, and isn´t on when I leave.¨

Correct the claim, without knowing or asking any further information. Do you base your opinion on how the person appears? Is it worth considering that news article from some months ago about a maintenance budget problem with the city, since a Hispanic-surname employee embezzled from their Public Works Department?

I know there is some here that would make the immediate leap that ¨illegals¨ have bankrupted the municipality...

And the city also employs ¨illegal aliens¨...

I´m taking it at face value, your translation to put words in someone´s mouth won´t be heeded by me...
You don't need to heed my translation. I quoted the remarks by that poster in its entirety and its meaning is prettty clear.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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You don't need to heed my translation. I quoted the remarks by that poster in its entirety and its meaning is prettty clear.
You actually are saying that you see your own inference with great clarity.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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You don't need to heed my translation. I quoted the remarks by that poster in its entirety and its meaning is prettty clear.
Is it also clear that the streetlight complainer has a high probability of being a 9:00 to 5:00 worker?...

That is how I regard some claims here...

Unverified, you just don´t know where they are coming from...
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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NY Times makes an interesting point about the prevalence of repeat crossers in the people now crossing the border illegally...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/wo...ed-states.html

You deport them come right back. Send them to the pen when they get out and get deported they come right back.
Yes, so much for Obama and Napolitano's Homeland Security. There is essentially no border at all. Illegals are coming over by the hundreds of thousands every month, and are allowed to do so.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Yes, so much for Obama and Napolitano's Homeland Security. There is essentially no border at all. Illegals are coming over by the hundreds of thousands every month, and are allowed to do so.
CAIR says - See my post #21 - an average of 10,000 per day...

Your math seems to match that (but their information also blames earlier administrations - not solely Obama's), perhaps you can glance over how I summed it up for them...
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Yes, so much for Obama and Napolitano's Homeland Security. There is essentially no border at all. Illegals are coming over by the hundreds of thousands every month, and are allowed to do so.
Nope. Tens of thousands perhaps. Recent numbers indicate less than 150,000 per annum nowadays from Mexico.

And the population of illegals appears to have dropped and stabilized.

It will certainly increase again when the economy picks up but that may still be a ways off.
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