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Old 10-07-2011, 07:23 AM
 
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MEMPHIS, TN (abc24.com) - Thousands of Latino children are being taken out of schools in Alabama. Families are seeking refuge in other states like Tennessee. This comes in the wake of Alabama’s new immigration law. The law states public schools can check the legal status of children and their parents, but will Tennessee follow suit?

"It's a sad day for the state of Alabama, for our country really because it's a step back," says Latino Memphis Director Maurico Calvo.

Alabama Immigrants Moving To The Mid-South|Memphis Breaking News, Weather & Sports | WPTY-TV | ABC24, abc24.com


How the hell is this a step back for our country and a sad day for Alabama?
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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"It's a sad day for the state of Alabama, for our country really because it's a step back," says Latino Memphis Director Maurico Calvo.

Alabama Immigrants Moving To The Mid-South|Memphis Breaking News, Weather & Sports | WPTY-TV | ABC24, abc24.com


How the hell is this a step back for our country and a sad day for Alabama?

Unfortunately, when a lot of "Latino leaders" talk about something being "bad for America" or "bad for X state," they actually mean, "bad for illegal Latino America," and "bad for illegal Latinos of X state."

Tribalism over what is truly good for the United States.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:28 AM
 
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What's a truly sad day for Alabama is that the Obama administration will likely step in as they did with Arizona to stop them. After all...it is election time, and there are millions of latino votes in play...and NOBODY panders for votes like the a-hole occupying the white house at the present time.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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MEMPHIS, TN (abc24.com) - Thousands of Latino children are being taken out of schools in Alabama. Families are seeking refuge in other states like Tennessee. This comes in the wake of Alabama’s new immigration law. The law states public schools can check the legal status of children and their parents, but will Tennessee follow suit?

"It's a sad day for the state of Alabama, for our country really because it's a step back," says Latino Memphis Director Maurico Calvo.

Alabama Immigrants Moving To The Mid-South|Memphis Breaking News, Weather & Sports | WPTY-TV | ABC24, abc24.com


How the hell is this a step back for our country and a sad day for Alabama?
Exactly.

Its a step forward for the country. A set back for illegals who think they can defy our laws.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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Unfortunately, when a lot of "Latino leaders" talk about something being "bad for America" or "bad for X state," they actually mean, "bad for illegal Latino America," and "bad for illegal Latinos of X state."

Tribalism over what is truly good for the United States.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:12 AM
 
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Default Immigrant v.s Illegal Immigrant

Using the term immigrant to describe illegals is like using the term modest home to describe a run down shack. Yes a run down shack can be described as a modest dwelling but it is it an accurate description? Not at all. Then why would we use such a term to describe the shack? To mislead of course. Sort of like saying a handymans special. Needs some work.
When people hear the term immigrant they would assume here legally.
So when the pro-side uses the term immigrant they wish to convey the message that illegals are of the same caliber and quality of legal immigrants. The desire is to blur the lines. We have seen those post on here that argue that illegals are immigrants. Yes they are in the most strict of definitions. But are they the same? On one hand you have the legal immigrant. This person applied to enter legally, respected our laws and waited until they were granted permission to enter.
The illegal often never even attempted to apply to enter, ignored our laws and rights as a nation to determine who may enter and imposed themselves upon us.
It can be argued that most illegals are not evil serial rapists or drug mules. The fact remains that they are here illegally and have done nothing and I stress nothing to show that they deserve the privilege of being allowed to stay. Quite the contrary, after entering illegally they go on to commit a number of more crimes. Fraud, tax evasion,driving without a license etc.
The pro-side would argue that some how this is our own fault. That we don't give the illegal any options. This defence is laughable because of 1 important fact. We as a nation have the right to determine who we feel is acceptable as an immigrant. This is recognized by international law. Another fact the pro-side will dismiss is the fact that we allow more imigration than all others.
Then come the sad stories. Man forced to leave his family when deported.
The fact he left 1 family to come here is less than relevant to the sob story. The fact that he lived here using fraud and commiting other crimes is not important. He is a victim. Sort of like when a man robs a bank because they declined his loan application.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Using the term immigrant to describe illegals is like using the term modest home to describe a run down shack. Yes a run down shack can be described as a modest dwelling but it is it an accurate description? Not at all. Then why would we use such a term to describe the shack? To mislead of course. Sort of like saying a handymans special. Needs some work.
When people hear the term immigrant they would assume here legally.
So when the pro-side uses the term immigrant they wish to convey the message that illegals are of the same caliber and quality of legal immigrants. The desire is to blur the lines. We have seen those post on here that argue that illegals are immigrants. Yes they are in the most strict of definitions. But are they the same? On one hand you have the legal immigrant. This person applied to enter legally, respected our laws and waited until they were granted permission to enter.
The illegal often never even attempted to apply to enter, ignored our laws and rights as a nation to determine who may enter and imposed themselves upon us.
It can be argued that most illegals are not evil serial rapists or drug mules. The fact remains that they are here illegally and have done nothing and I stress nothing to show that they deserve the privilege of being allowed to stay. Quite the contrary, after entering illegally they go on to commit a number of more crimes. Fraud, tax evasion,driving without a license etc.
The pro-side would argue that some how this is our own fault. That we don't give the illegal any options. This defence is laughable because of 1 important fact. We as a nation have the right to determine who we feel is acceptable as an immigrant. This is recognized by international law. Another fact the pro-side will dismiss is the fact that we allow more imigration than all others.
Then come the sad stories. Man forced to leave his family when deported.
The fact he left 1 family to come here is less than relevant to the sob story. The fact that he lived here using fraud and commiting other crimes is not important. He is a victim. Sort of like when a man robs a bank because they declined his loan application.
Very well put, tinman.
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Old 10-07-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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I hate when they try to blend tbemselves in and use the legal immigrant cover
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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I hate when they try to blend tbemselves in and use the legal immigrant cover
It's nothing more than a sad and pathetic attempt to paint themselves as victims and gain sympathy.

The American people are getting more sick of this BS as days go by.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado
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What's a truly sad day for Alabama is that the Obama administration will likely step in as they did with Arizona to stop them. After all...it is election time, and there are millions of latino votes in play...and NOBODY panders for votes like the a-hole occupying the white house at the present time.
Already happening.
Justice Department Asks Appeals Court To Block Alabama's Immigration Law | Fox News
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