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Old 10-08-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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The problem is the illegal aliens will self deport to other states that are more tolerable of illegal aliens. We need to throw the politicians out of office and get a new group in there that will do the peoples work and uphold the immigration laws. The politicians we have in office now are too corrupt and attached to the purse strings of big business. Big businesses and corporations likes the illegal aliens because they can abuse the illegals and offer them no benefits and work them for low wages all the while driving down prevailing wages for the American worker. Just so they can increase their already outrageous profits. Is it any wonder people are revolting across the nation. Wait until people start taking over the IRS buildings nationwide then the politicians will sit up and listen.


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$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
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Improbable. It would appear total illegal immigrant payroll is under 200 Billion. So it is not rational that they impact more than they make. Note also that is 200 billion out of 12 or 13 trilllion. So a percent or two of the overall wages paid in the US. Not likely to have huge economic impact. Pales in comparison to say NAFTA or any of the large scale job exports.

It also tends to give the lie to the idea that illegal aliens are caused by the hungry capitalists. Not enough money involved to have any real effect on the economy.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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Improbable. It would appear total illegal immigrant payroll is under 200 Billion. So it is not rational that they impact more than they make. Note also that is 200 billion out of 12 or 13 trilllion. So a percent or two of the overall wages paid in the US. Not likely to have huge economic impact. Pales in comparison to say NAFTA or any of the large scale job exports.

It also tends to give the lie to the idea that illegal aliens are caused by the hungry capitalists. Not enough money involved to have any real effect on the economy.
Don't forget that the illegals virtually never buy themselves a health insurance plan and choose instead to use Medicaid and Emergency Medicaid whenever they need health care, and you really need to count the food stamps and WIC they take, the free government housing once they start giving birth here. And the over $12,000 a year for each one of their kids.

Illegals are big portion of the Medicaid recipients.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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Don't forget that the illegals virtually never buy themselves a health insurance plan and choose instead to use Medicaid and Emergency Medicaid whenever they need health care, and you really need to count the food stamps and WIC they take, the free government housing once they start giving birth here. And the over $12,000 a year for each one of their kids.

Illegals are big portion of the Medicaid recipients.
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As to housing...

From AP...

The New York City Housing Authority reports 2,471 families with at least one ineligible noncitizen, or 0.9% of the 289,000 households on vouchers or in housing developments.

The San Diego Housing Commission reports 658 of the 37,120 people on federal housing vouchers are ineligible noncitizens, or 1.8%. The San Francisco Housing Authority has 148 ineligible noncitizens among its 28,611 people in federal housing, or 0.5%.

Housing agencies in Miami-Dade County and Chicago each reported serving less than 50 ineligible noncitizens. The Boston Housing Authority reports 288 of its 45,100 families on federal housing assistance are ineligible noncitizens, or 0.6%.

Does not appear to be much of a problem.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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As to housing...

From AP...

The New York City Housing Authority reports 2,471 families with at least one ineligible noncitizen, or 0.9% of the 289,000 households on vouchers or in housing developments.

The San Diego Housing Commission reports 658 of the 37,120 people on federal housing vouchers are ineligible noncitizens, or 1.8%. The San Francisco Housing Authority has 148 ineligible noncitizens among its 28,611 people in federal housing, or 0.5%.

Housing agencies in Miami-Dade County and Chicago each reported serving less than 50 ineligible noncitizens. The Boston Housing Authority reports 288 of its 45,100 families on federal housing assistance are ineligible noncitizens, or 0.6%.

Does not appear to be much of a problem.
Find a source that shows illegals cross the border and buy into a health insurance policy. They don't. And you know they don't.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Find a source that shows illegals cross the border and buy into a health insurance policy. They don't. And you know they don't.
Find a source that American citizens of similar economic status buy health insurance policies. They don't. And you know they don't.
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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Find a source that American citizens of similar economic status buy health insurance policies. They don't. And you know they don't.
Big huge difference between American citizens and foreigners here illegally.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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As to housing...

From AP...

The New York City Housing Authority reports 2,471 families with at least one ineligible noncitizen, or 0.9% of the 289,000 households on vouchers or in housing developments.

The San Diego Housing Commission reports 658 of the 37,120 people on federal housing vouchers are ineligible noncitizens, or 1.8%. The San Francisco Housing Authority has 148 ineligible noncitizens among its 28,611 people in federal housing, or 0.5%.

Housing agencies in Miami-Dade County and Chicago each reported serving less than 50 ineligible noncitizens. The Boston Housing Authority reports 288 of its 45,100 families on federal housing assistance are ineligible noncitizens, or 0.6%.

Does not appear to be much of a problem.
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Big huge difference between American citizens and foreigners here illegally.
Deport the illegals: more jobs, houses, etc. will open up for Americans. Even 1 percent is to many trespassers stealin from Americans.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Big huge difference between American citizens and foreigners here illegally.
In your mind perhaps...but not in the context of this discussion.
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