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Meanwhile Alabama legislators like Jeremy Oden, Elwyin Thomas and Lisa Bearden are looking for ways to amend their own law to encourage foreign farm workers to return to the state. Oden is even calling on the, get this, federal government to change immigration law to permit more "documented" workers to come to the state.
A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer.
"Look, we need a federal program, a migrant program that we can apply in our state and get these skilled laborers to stay and help these people out,
Meanwhile Alabama legislators like Jeremy Oden, Elwyin Thomas and Lisa Bearden are looking for ways to amend their own law to encourage foreign farm workers to return to the state. Oden is even calling on the, get this, federal government to change immigration law to permit more "documented" workers to come to the state.
A $5.5 billion agriculture industry is now at stake, but Oden said it is not up to the state to reverse the law, but the federal government to come up with an answer.
"Look, we need a federal program, a migrant program that we can apply in our state and get these skilled laborers to stay and help these people out,
There already are unlimited H-2A visas for "documented" agricultural workers so what is he talking about?
That is what i would like to know also.
Of course the Feds are not going to help Arizona enforce immigration laws, why, becuase they help promote immigration laws, and could give a damn about the laws being broken.
H2As are a complicated situation. They are not available to the worker but are obtained by the employer. The process is reasonably difficult though in no way impossible and has significant risk for the employer. It clearly has long lead times...large fractions of a year.
It also requires facilities and financial committment from the employer.
It is not remotely like driving down to Home Depot.
Sparkit, do you know of significant numbers of office building managements, lawn care companies, and restaurants hiring with H2As?
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H2As are a complicated situation. They are not available to the worker but are obtained by the employer. The process is reasonably difficult though in no way impossible and has significant risk for the employer. It clearly has long lead times...large fractions of a year.
It also requires facilities and financial committment from the employer.
It is not remotely like driving down to Home Depot.
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a. H2A's don't work well, they were designed not to work well. And they don't work in agriculture at all.
Ya'll that want to get rid of illegal labor without providing a replacement, may be interested in the following.
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"Criticism from the business community has rained down on legislators and Bentley. Grow Alabama, a farmers' lobby, says its members lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in unharvested crops. In a test arranged by Grow Alabama director Jerry Spencer, 25 Alabamians picked fewer tomatoes per day than one four-man crew of Hispanics. The brutal stoop labor broke down many of the 25 physically, and they quit right away. "They're just not capable," Spencer said.
Corporate chicken-processing firms, the lifeblood of many small towns where Hispanic families have long lived in harmony with local residents, may close or cut production after losing a huge portion of their labor force. In urban centers like Birmingham, building contractors say their industry is stalling without immigrant workers, whatever their legal status."
H2As are a complicated situation. They are not available to the worker but are obtained by the employer. The process is reasonably difficult though in no way impossible and has significant risk for the employer. It clearly has long lead times...large fractions of a year.
It also requires facilities and financial committment from the employer.
It is not remotely like driving down to Home Depot.
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Sparkit, do you know of significant numbers of office building managements, lawn care companies, and restaurants hiring with H2As?
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a. H2A's don't work well, they were designed not to work well. And they don't work in agriculture at all.
Ya'll that want to get rid of illegal labor without providing a replacement, may be interested in the following.
Unemployment is goin away for lots of people an those nasty jobs aint looking so bad today. Just that employers CANT treat Americans like dirt an get away with it.
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Just that employers CANT treat Americans like dirt an get away with it.
