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Old 10-29-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Things could get really bad very fast. These aren't US gangs per se, they are Mexican gangs, the people moving over from that country, some may be coming over legally with the very laxness of our legal immigration laws, but the bulk of these violent gang types would be coming over illegally because the immigration laws are not enforced and the border remains controlled by the cartels themselves.

Mexican drug cartels strengthen ties with US gangs - El Paso Times

"Both the Barrio Azteca and Sureños have established ties (with cartels) to get cheaper prices on drugs.

They have essentially eliminated the middle man and have gone (to) deal directly to the supplier."



What's very bad about this and makes this such a serious potential problem is that just like in Mexico, some of these drugs are extremely addictive and extremely damaging to the soul and mind. The cartels can easily make these drug addicts in to their foot soldiers who will do absolutely anything for their drugs. The addicts become soul-less robots who crave blood and torture.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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One of the books on El Chapo talked about how cartels had deals with a group of brothers in Chicago - Historically cartels have had associates and contacts in the USA.
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Something needs to be freaking done. Get our guys back home, and put them on or borders.

If we let this go now, which appears the government and this President as well as past, seem to not give a damn about this problem. Let it go now, and we will sadly pay in our kids, and grandchidlren's future.

Things will get pretty bad if we do not get someone in office tough on immigration, and this crap we are putting up with, i want no ***** i want someone tough, and we need someone tough now. Isn't enough enough, or do we choose to turn our heads the other way. No way i don't think so, we need to get someone in office, that truly cares and will do something about this problem, Obama is not that man.
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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One of the books on El Chapo talked about how cartels had deals with a group of brothers in Chicago - Historically cartels have had associates and contacts in the USA.
Yes, and the powerful drugs will do the same to any one of any race who gets addicted them.

It's not well known in the USA how much the cartels use drug addicted hitmen, or others. We tend to accept that old line that only Americans can be addicted to drugs, people of other countries are too superior to become addicted like we are.

That's why people in the USA were amazed and puzzled by the massacres of Mexican rehab facilities, they couldn't understand why drug addicts would be targetted by cartel hitmen and wiped out, many assumed that it was that the cartels were mad if people tried to quit using drugs.

The addicts are very close to the cartels, the cartel dealers supply them with drugs, and that creates a connection. But also there's a vigilantism about the cartels, they "protect" their own region of their country from the alien cartels trying to addict their people. La Familia got a stronghold that way, they convinced the people of their region that other cartels were trying to corrupt their youth and get them addicted to drugs -- and that probably was the case and it endeared that cartel to the people of their region.

In Mexico the rehabs themselves are aligned with a cartel, they are either addicts of a cartel seeking help, but the cartel runs the rehab, often it's just a ruse to provide cartel members a place to stay that doesn't make them look suspicious to the authorities. When a rehab gets hit, it's actually by the opposing cartel trying to get at the cartel of the rehab, kill it's soldiers or it's addicts.
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Drugs come to USA because of demand Ask average American to stop using drugs problem solved
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Drugs come to USA because of demand Ask average American to stop using drugs problem solved
Demand is less here than back in the day. More an more Mexican cartels are talkin there stuff to Europe bypassing the USA. An its Mexicans killing Mexicans IN Mexico.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Drugs come to USA because of demand Ask average American to stop using drugs problem solved
We've been asking that for 40 years or more.. How well has it worked out?
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Drugs come to USA because of demand Ask average American to stop using drugs problem solved
Duh ? What a novel idea. Gee, and we could send
a letter to the cartels (while we are at it) and tell
them not to send any more dope, cause every body
quit. Problem solved, right ????? Why didn't we
come up with this before ??
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Old 10-30-2011, 06:33 AM
 
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Duh ? What a novel idea. Gee, and we could send
a letter to the cartels (while we are at it) and tell
them not to send any more dope, cause every body
quit. Problem solved, right ????? Why didn't we
come up with this before ??
Not only that but since when does the "average" American do drugs? Just more false claims from the pro-illegals.
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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One of the books on El Chapo talked about how cartels had deals with a group of brothers in Chicago - Historically cartels have had associates and contacts in the USA.
Exactly, this is hardly new news.
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