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Old 11-25-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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US ranchers: We live in fear along Mexican border - Nightly News - msnbc.com

"The Obama administration and many local officials have said the U.S.-Mexican border is safer than ever and that reports of violence on the American side are wildly exaggerated. But the farmer scoffed at that argument. "I walk this soil every day and have since I was old enough to come out on my own," he said. "In this part of Texas, it is worse than it's ever been."


I side with the Farmers. They deal with the issue every single day.

Do Politicians really expect us to believe the border is secure? Really?

I cannot imagine living in fear on a daily basis. You can even feel safe in your own home...and the government chooses to joke about it instead. I bet these farmers and many other folks who live close the border didn't find the "moat with Alligators" joke funny at all.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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We have nobody else to blame but AMERICANS for buying the drugs that those mexican drug dealers bring.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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We have nobody else to blame but AMERICANS for buying the drugs that those mexican drug dealers bring.
If Mexican drug dealers didn't supply the drugs, there would be no demand.

Cut off the supply, and the demand will eventually fade.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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US ranchers: We live in fear along Mexican border - Nightly News - msnbc.com

"The Obama administration and many local officials have said the U.S.-Mexican border is safer than ever and that reports of violence on the American side are wildly exaggerated. But the farmer scoffed at that argument. "I walk this soil every day and have since I was old enough to come out on my own," he said. "In this part of Texas, it is worse than it's ever been."


I side with the Farmers. They deal with the issue every single day.

Do Politicians really expect us to believe the border is secure? Really?

I cannot imagine living in fear on a daily basis. You can even feel safe in your own home...and the government chooses to joke about it instead. I bet these farmers and many other folks who live close the border didn't find the "moat with Alligators" joke funny at all.
I side with the farmers and ranchers too since they're American citizens, but i don't buy this crap about them living in fear. I think it's overblown.

They're on the border for crying out loud. The border can only be safe up to a certain point. The illegals passing through are doing just that...passing through. The overwhelming majority don't want to bother anyone...they just want to get to one of the larger population centers to find a job. Messing with ranchers will just alert the BP to their routes and increase their chances of getting caught. They pay a lot of dough to get up here...they don't wanna waste that money.

The drug smugglers present a more dangerous problem. However, with drug prohibition, this is just a fact of life. Americans want their dope, and they'll get it no matter how hard you patrol the border. We live in an open country....what are we supposed to do? Put Border Patrol on every inch of the border?
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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US ranchers: We live in fear along Mexican border - Nightly News - msnbc.com

"The Obama administration and many local officials have said the U.S.-Mexican border is safer than ever and that reports of violence on the American side are wildly exaggerated. But the farmer scoffed at that argument. "I walk this soil every day and have since I was old enough to come out on my own," he said. "In this part of Texas, it is worse than it's ever been."


I side with the Farmers. They deal with the issue every single day.

Do Politicians really expect us to believe the border is secure? Really?

I cannot imagine living in fear on a daily basis. You can even feel safe in your own home...and the government chooses to joke about it instead. I bet these farmers and many other folks who live close the border didn't find the "moat with Alligators" joke funny at all.
This regime speaks with forked tongue.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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I side with the farmers and ranchers too since they're American citizens, but i don't buy this crap about them living in fear. I think it's overblown.
Yeah, I'm sure the reporting of thousands of murders that occur in Mexico at the hands of cartels is over blown also. With the cartels going through your property, why would you be afraid?


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The drug smugglers present a more dangerous problem. However, with drug prohibition, this is just a fact of life. Americans want their dope, and they'll get it no matter how hard you patrol the border. We live in an open country....what are we supposed to do? Put Border Patrol on every inch of the border?
Maybe instead of starting another war in Libya and policing the world our troops should be on the border protecting our country. The cartels present a much greater threat to our citizens then terrorists. If the cartels try their crap with our troops on the border, they can be handled with extreme predjudice.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Obama plays politics at the cost of protecting our own borders, is that not the shi--.

Most of us who udnerstandt this delicate issue, know that it has been tried to be swept under the rug, but you see, the rug has been pulled up, and too many now can see what is happening along our borders.

They are as dangerous as ever, maybe worse, and the fact that we can have a administration lie to us, and tell us they are safer then ever, is a bull faced lie.

It is a crying shame the citizens of this Country have got to live in fear, in their own backyards, this is sickening. Should we now take a stance on our true feelings on this issue.

If we the citizens don't get involved, what will happen to future genrations.

We need to get someone in office, who honestly takes a stance hardline on illegal immigration, and do something about it. Not talk a good game, actually act upon his actions.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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We were busy with wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So we slacked off on the drug war. Allowing medical use in many states, with dispensaries, the need for Mexican dirt weed and other dugs were lowering.

Now that we are shifting attention back home, there is a sudden crack down on dispensaries, so that it keeps drug runners border crossing, which continues a need for the military industrial complex.

Its all a big scam to keep the military spending money we don't have.
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We were busy with wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So we slacked off on the drug war. Allowing medical use in many states, with dispensaries, the need for Mexican dirt weed and other dugs were lowering.

Now that we are shifting attention back home, there is a sudden crack down on dispensaries, so that it keeps drug runners border crossing, which continues a need for the military industrial complex.

Its all a big scam to keep the military spending money we don't have.
I believe that you mant congress senate and the Potus didn't you?
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I believe that you mant congress senate and the Potus didn't you?

The idea behind the military industrial complex is that the military and industry ban together to lobby potus and congress spending money on them. And if they decide to try and cut them, then they scream "unpatriotic" and "not safe" to scare people.
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