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Old 12-06-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Just what benefits do illegal immigrants get? I thought that the U.S was only known for things such as food stamps and bare-bones public hospitals. I'm not aware of any U.S citizens receiving disability or welfare that's enough to live above the poverty line, letalone illegals.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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Just what benefits do illegal immigrants get? I thought that the U.S was only known for things such as food stamps and bare-bones public hospitals. I'm not aware of any U.S citizens receiving disability or welfare that's enough to live above the poverty line, letalone illegals.
They get welfare through fraud and their anchor babies. Surely, you know this. What does it matter if they live below or above the poverty line? It is our taxes they are tapping into. In their own countries they lived in poverty but they had to work to survive. Here many don't have to do that. Just pop out a few anchors and they don't have to work.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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Free public schooling. Unlimited use of our hospitals. Anchor babies afford them welfare, section 8, food stamps, etc.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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I used to do public assistance, until they basically made it a job requirement to speak Spanish. Anyone who does a food stamp or Medicaid review on a case and actually requests the required verifications, things like birth certificates, social security cards, and statements regarding housing, rent verification, income. You are treated like a racist if you ask for these documents on a case with a Hispanic name, yet dinged if you don't do it on cases with Anglo names. The politics of public assistance is crazy.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:20 PM
 
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They get welfare through fraud and their anchor babies. Surely, you know this
I suspected "anchor babies" as a gateway to getting welfare, but didn't think that they were able to get welfare. It just sounded like they were able to get entitlements that a legal U.S citizen could not. Even if they get the same as everyone else, I can see why everyone's fuming at that.

EDIT: Actually, I thought something like "If they're entitled to welfare, then how can they be better off than a legal citizen who gets the same amount of welfare?" Anchor babies in part, I guess. And 3 families in each house?
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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And they need not bother paying taxes on under-the-table income, nor reporting said income to the welfare dept (since that would result in less or no food stamps), or buying auto insurance or getting a drivers license.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:08 AM
 
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I suspected "anchor babies" as a gateway to getting welfare, but didn't think that they were able to get welfare. It just sounded like they were able to get entitlements that a legal U.S citizen could not. Even if they get the same as everyone else, I can see why everyone's fuming at that.

EDIT: Actually, I thought something like "If they're entitled to welfare, then how can they be better off than a legal citizen who gets the same amount of welfare?" Anchor babies in part, I guess. And 3 families in each house?
Yes -- often in their government provided housing that the anchor baby got them, there are several families, or renters. Illegals with a US born baby can rent out rooms to other illegals or space on the floor to sleep and actually make money from their free housing.

And of course many illegals work for cash as independent contractors and simply don't report their earnings when applying for government handouts.

Illegals and others from Mexico are doing better than ever in this economy - remittances to Mexico were up considerably in 2011, they have MORE money to send back.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:00 AM
 
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There used to be a time when the word "illegal" actually meant something. Insane for illegal aliens to receive any time of benefits. They should be deported as the law states.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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I suspected "anchor babies" as a gateway to getting welfare, but didn't think that they were able to get welfare. It just sounded like they were able to get entitlements that a legal U.S citizen could not. Even if they get the same as everyone else, I can see why everyone's fuming at that.

EDIT: Actually, I thought something like "If they're entitled to welfare, then how can they be better off than a legal citizen who gets the same amount of welfare?" Anchor babies in part, I guess. And 3 families in each house?
Who said anything about them being better off? What I said is that even though they may or may not live in poverty here as they did in their own countries many don't have to work for a living here because of their anchor baby cash. In their own countries they don't get all these anchor baby freebies to suppliment their income or to live off of. Many of these anchor baby moms don't have to work at all.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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I used to do public assistance, until they basically made it a job requirement to speak Spanish. Anyone who does a food stamp or Medicaid review on a case and actually requests the required verifications, things like birth certificates, social security cards, and statements regarding housing, rent verification, income. You are treated like a racist if you ask for these documents on a case with a Hispanic name, yet dinged if you don't do it on cases with Anglo names. The politics of public assistance is crazy.
I know exactly what you are talking about and it is that way all across the country. I had to work with public assistance offices and that is where I learned a lot about illegal immigrants and government assistance, the fraud and the whole sha-bang.

It is amazing that the workers in those offices were encouraged to pay less scrutinizing attention to cases involving Spanish speaking people.

How can people who were born in the United States or who are legally here be treated with more scrutiny and restrictions than someone who is illegally in the country? I've literally seen doors shut in U.S. citizens' faces and seen them wide open for illegal immigrants.

Also, there is the Spanish translation aspect. A U.S. citizen could walk into a government office and wait hours for an opening, but because a translator is available, or many, a non-English speaking person can walk in and get top-notch assistance and a much faster process.

It's a culture of 1) feeling sorry for illegal immigrants or 2) being afraid to go after illegal immigrants because a] the racism claims or b] people are afraid to dive into an illegal immigration case because of fear of it being complex.
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