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Unread 12-08-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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You totally miss the point. As a Puerto Rican born in Puerto Rico I am a full fledged American citizen, as were my parents. What bothers me is that if I go to Alabama I can be pulled over just because of the way I look and it's legal. Ever think that people of Italian descent can look Hispanic as well?

I am not sure what race you are, but I am sure if you had physical characterstics that allowed police to pull you over just on how you look, I am sure you wouldn't be too happy....

I think illigeal immigration needs to be controlled, however, the way Alabama and Arizona are going about it is the wrong way.
All Alabama is doing is enforcing the law. Get over it. If people associate hispanics with illegals it is because most illegals are hispanics and the hispanic lobby keeps demanding we import more. I am sick and tired of being accused of terrrible behavior when I point this out.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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You need to read the LAW and stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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Do you even know the meaning of the word 'bigotry'?



Keep that confederate flag flyin'.
Do you?



Since when is rational enforement of our immigration laws some sort of racist action? FYI, I am from the northeast. You'know, the part that was not now nor ever part of Mexico. Mexicans might want to remember that and stop demanding the unlimited right to move here without permission.

Your whole OP is predicated on false notions otherwise. The only bigotry is the demand that Mexicans get to skip our immigration lines just because they're Mexicans and have sort of special rights with regards to our immigration laws and borders. And the pandering pols sacrifice the middle class and bow down to their demands in the name of racist nationlist politics.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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All Alabama is doing is enforcing the law. Get over it. If people associate hispanics with illegals it is because most illegals are hispanics and the hispanic lobby keeps demanding we import more. I am sick and tired of being accused of terrrible behavior when I point this out.
So if someone thinks that most whites from Alabama are bigots, then it's okay that every white person from Alabama I come across I can just assume they are a bigot? Seems really fair, and that will get this country really far.

So I guess everyone should assume I am illegal because I am hispanic. Love it.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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I have nothing to hide, but what about if I get pulled over every week by someone different? You act as if you get pulled over once and you prove you are a citizen that they will never pull you over again.

The simple fact that a law being passed making it okay to pull somone over because of the way they look is bad enough.

Your example doesn't work here because that is a SPECIFIC incident. The immigration laws are going after people because of the way they look and who they are, not because they robbed a store or did a hit and run.
What part of no one is pulled over just based on their looks, didn't you get? Where in the law does it say that is what they are allowed to do? In fact, racial profiling is prohibited. Who is getting pulled over every week by someone different? Please cite these cases. You don't have to prove that you're a citizen anyway. Once your provide valid I.D. the question of citizenship doesn't even come into play. If one is a legal immigrant they would have the proper documents on them also. Or at least they should as it is the law.

Get a grip and stop drinking the pro-illegal kool-aid.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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Do you even know what the Confederate flag stands for?

I bet you don't.

The flag represented the South's resistance to the North...It has 13 stars that represent the 13 southern states of the American union before they formed the Confederate States of America. It has nothing to do with racism.


But what do I know? I am only a Political Science AND History major

And I actually take the time to get educated on subjects before running my mouth.
Yet it isn't bigotry and racism to advocate for illegal aliens just because they happen to share your ethnic roots?
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Yet it isn't bigotry and racism to advocate for illegal aliens just because they happen to share your ethnic roots?
Not only that but someone who has no idea about the actual meaning of the Confederate Flag wants to lecture someone else on the meaning of the word "bigotry"

LOL
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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So if someone thinks that most whites from Alabama are bigots, then it's okay that every white person from Alabama I come across I can just assume they are a bigot? Seems really fair, and that will get this country really far.

So I guess everyone should assume I am illegal because I am hispanic. Love it.
I have never assumed that when I see an apparent Hispanic that they must be here illegally. Only a fool would assume that and most of us don't. There are at least 20 million legal or citizen Hispanics in this country and I think most of us know that.

However, claiming that most white Alabamians are bigots just based on their advocacy for the enforcement of our immigration laws is equally ridiculous but you hear that all the time from the pro-illegals along with bringing up past racism of the south towards blacks decades ago. Anything to smear those of us for the enforcement of our immigration laws, right?
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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So if someone thinks that most whites from Alabama are bigots, then it's okay that every white person from Alabama I come across I can just assume they are a bigot? Seems really fair, and that will get this country really far.

So I guess everyone should assume I am illegal because I am hispanic. Love it.
What are you babbling about? Unless you can find a poll or some evidence that people from Alabama are bigots you have no cause to make such a statement. Support for rational immigration laws is not the same thing as bigotry.

I was simply pointing out that if hispanics don't want to be seen as illegals or supporters of illegals they should stop being illegals and supporting them. As numerous threads have pointed out, hispanics disproportunately support illegals despite the fact that illegals are detrimental to the economic interests of most Americans. They do so largely solely out of ethnic solidarity. Were most illegals Chinese the truth is that most hispanics would in fact be completely and probably vocally anti-illegal. This is not in dispute. That's the real racism here.
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Unread 12-08-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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This is embarrassing. So much wrong with the backtracking. They should have thought it out more, the many circumstances and situations, before putting the law out there. So, now that they are backtracking, it makes them look really bad, clumsy, unorganized and not to be taken seriously. It's also sad that the money aspect of companies like Mercedes-Benz have threatened them into this move. I knew that some backlash about that Mercedes-Benz executive being stopped would come back later.

I also think it is lame opponents of the law would try to act as though foreign companies will put a lot of importance on Arizona's stance on illegal immigration. Unless your company plans on employing illegal immigrants then you should have nothing to worry. They are just using this as another reason to not want enforced immigration laws.

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