Alabama about to repeal strict illegal immigration law (Mexico, suspect, statistics)

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by HandsUpThumbsDown

If this is really what you believe, it is you who is drinking kool-aid.

Can you show sources where someone is pulled over for their looks?

[HandsUpThumbsDown]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Can you show sources where someone is pulled over for their looks?

Just go back to post #49.

Or lengthier: NJ Attorney General Report on Racial Profiling

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by HandsUpThumbsDown

Just go back to post #49.

Or lengthier: NJ Attorney General Report on Racial Profiling

NJ doesn't have an immigration law.
Why isn't Obama sueing NJ?

Where in the law does Ala. state profiling?

What recent cases have there been with profilinig in Ala?

[Liquid Reigns]

Originally Posted by WilliamSmyth

Because what are you going to do if the police don't believe your DL is real. The day the new Arizona was signed (ie before the stricter standards), a U.S. Citizen, resident of Arizona, Truck Driver was arrested and detained at truck inspection spot when the police believed his DL and documentation was bad. It wasn't until his wife was able to produce a birth certificate many hours later that he was released.

Then we have this case in Alabama.

Alabama red-faced as second foreign car boss held under immigration law | World news | guardian.co.uk
Yada was stopped in Leeds, Alabama, at a checkpoint set up by police to catch unlicenced drivers. He was ticketed on the spot, despite the fact that he showed an international driver's licence, a valid passport and a US work permit.

It is not only illegal immigrants who are paying the price for these draconian laws.

You are aware that the Japanese worker was here on a work visa, which state law then requires he apply for and attain a Alabama drivers license, his international drivers license is only good if he were here on a limited visit. Once he has a residence here, as he would by being on a US work permit, he is required to obtain a US state drivers license. The article itself is attempting to make a mountain out of a grain of sand. Foreigners need to know our laws and realize that they must abide by them. Both (German and Japanese) were stopped and detained/cited for not having the a/proper drivers license. Neither had anything to do with their immigration status. The article created a strawman argument to attempt to advocate for illegal aliens.

Now, explain how these laws are "draconian" when these immigrants are treated the same as a citizen would be, cited for driving without a license. As for Abdon, the man in Phoenix needing to show his birth certificate, it was an ICE agent that arrested him and demanded more documentation, not a local LEO. This had nothing to do with SB1070.

[Strel]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Since the law took effect, Alabama's unemployment rate has dropped a half percentage point. Says the article. Good for them.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Strel

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

If there were not thousands of illegals leaving, apts for rent and jobs opening, then ya.

[Liquid Reigns]

Originally Posted by HandsUpThumbsDown

Just go back to post #49.

Or lengthier: NJ Attorney General Report on Racial Profiling

You might try reading your own link for which you might realize doesn't back up your assertion.

Released: April 20, 1999
This Interim Report is limited to the examination of the practice commonly referred to as racial profiling. The Report specifically focuses on activities of state troopers assigned to patrol the New Jersey Turnpike, which is considered to be a major drug corridor. This circumstance provides the incentive and opportunity for the State Police to use drug interdiction tactics that appear to be closely linked to the national racial profiling controversy. [Report p. 2]

[WilliamSmyth]

Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns

You are aware that the Japanese worker was here on a work visa, which state law then requires he apply for and attain a Alabama drivers license, his international drivers license is only good if he were here on a limited visit. Once he has a residence here, as he would by being on a US work permit, he is required to obtain a US state drivers license. The article itself is attempting to make a mountain out of a grain of sand. Foreigners need to know our laws and realize that they must abide by them. Both (German and Japanese) were stopped and detained/cited for not having the a/proper drivers license. Neither had anything to do with their immigration status. The article created a strawman argument to attempt to advocate for illegal aliens.

Now, explain how these laws are "draconian" when these immigrants are treated the same as a citizen would be, cited for driving without a license. As for Abdon, the man in Phoenix needing to show his birth certificate, it was an ICE agent that arrested him and demanded more documentation, not a local LEO. This had nothing to do with SB1070.

As I already stated in by post that the Arizona detention occurred prior to the implementation of the Arizona law. But the AZ law and the AL law will make these types of detentions and arrests more common not less. The frequent assertion is that a person has nothing to worry about if they have a valid license. Clearly a valid license is not a protection from be detained or arrested.

[jjwebbster]

Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns

You are aware that the Japanese worker was here on a work visa, which state law then requires he apply for and attain a Alabama drivers license, his international drivers license is only good if he were here on a limited visit. Once he has a residence here, as he would by being on a US work permit, he is required to obtain a US state drivers license. The article itself is attempting to make a mountain out of a grain of sand. Foreigners need to know our laws and realize that they must abide by them. Both (German and Japanese) were stopped and detained/cited for not having the a/proper drivers license. Neither had anything to do with their immigration status. The article created a strawman argument to attempt to advocate for illegal aliens.

Now, explain how these laws are "draconian" when these immigrants are treated the same as a citizen would be, cited for driving without a license. As for Abdon, the man in Phoenix needing to show his birth certificate, it was an ICE agent that arrested him and demanded more documentation, not a local LEO. This had nothing to do with SB1070.

Great post, I would rep. that twice if I could .

[chicagonut]

Originally Posted by HandsUpThumbsDown

If this is really what you believe, it is you who is drinking kool-aid.

Then prove me wrong. Cite the numerous cases where racial profiling has occured under these new immigration laws. An isolated case or two (with unproven racial profiling) doesn't count.