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Old 12-15-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I believe it's not age 21 but age 18...
That is where learning to research would really pay off for you - Immigrant Visas are from the I-130...

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It's become much easier now. All an illegal has to do is claim he or she is a victim somehow and they're in. They can either have been some kind of victim back home or here -- it doesn't matter. If the illegal is found with drugs, all the better, he can simply claim someone planted the drugs on him and therefore he's a victim and gets a U visa.

And all along the border, they're just rubber stamping the refugee claims. You see pick up trucks and vans from Mexico loaded up with furniture, they're allowed to just move on over.
And of course you have have statistics on the number of refugee and U/V visas issued, or is that hidden by the Illuminati management?...

 
Old 12-18-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Again, who cares if lawbreakers are offended?
Anchor. Babies. Are. Not. Lawbreakers.

Is that too hard for you to understand?
 
Old 12-18-2011, 09:20 AM
 
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Anchor. Babies. Are. Not. Lawbreakers.

Is that too hard for you to understand?
I don't see anywhere in the quote chicagonut says anchor babies are law breakers.
 
Old 12-18-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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Anchor. Babies. Are. Not. Lawbreakers.

Is that too hard for you to understand?
I wasn't referring to anchor babies. I was referring to illegal aliens. I really don't care if their advocates are offended either.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 05:37 PM
 
Location: SELA
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The term "anchor baby" is dehumanizing to people that had no choice over the location or circumstances of their birth, since it reduces the description of a large class of people to the nature of their birth, and one of the connotations of the metaphor of an anchor is that the anchor can be removed, and both the vessel and the unwanted anchor removed from the port.

In a sense, this is symbolic of the intermediate status of the so-called "Mexican-American," caught between two cultures, rejected by Mexicans as not truly Mexican and by Americans as not truly American.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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The term "anchor baby" is dehumanizing to people that had no choice over the location or circumstances of their birth, since it reduces the description of a large class of people to the nature of their birth, and one of the connotations of the metaphor of an anchor is that the anchor can be removed, and both the vessel and the unwanted anchor removed from the port.

In a sense, this is symbolic of the intermediate status of the so-called "Mexican-American," caught between two cultures, rejected by Mexicans as not truly Mexican and by Americans as not truly American.
It's the parents who are to be blamed. All those illegals who come over here to give birth with the intention of using that baby to not only collect food stamps and other welfare handouts, let the taxpayers pay for the hospital stays and then get the child onto Medicaid, insist that because they gave birth here they are to be given a free pass around the immigration laws and expect that as soon as the child can, they will be sponsored along with all other kinds of relatives.

It's the illegals who are exploiting their own children, so much so that when there is any threat the parents could be deported, they threaten to abandon all those anchors as they are of no use to them if they can't use them to break the laws.
 
Old 12-22-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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It's the parents who are to be blamed. All those illegals who come over here to give birth with the intention of using that baby to not only collect food stamps and other welfare handouts, let the taxpayers pay for the hospital stays and then get the child onto Medicaid, insist that because they gave birth here they are to be given a free pass around the immigration laws and expect that as soon as the child can, they will be sponsored along with all other kinds of relatives.

It's the illegals who are exploiting their own children, so much so that when there is any threat the parents could be deported, they threaten to abandon all those anchors as they are of no use to them if they can't use them to break the laws.
Exactly! How is it dehumanizing to the baby? The term is actually referring to their parent's attempt to anchor themselves onto our country by giving birth here. Of course if the pro-illegals couldn't use terms like "dehumanizing a baby" to demonize us they would have to admit to the lawbreaking and motives of the parents. Can't have that, now can we?
 
Old 12-22-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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Exactly! How is it dehumanizing to the baby? The term is actually referring to their parent's attempt to anchor themselves onto our country by giving birth here. Of course if the pro-illegals couldn't use terms like "dehumanizing a baby" to demonize us they would have to admit to the lawbreaking and motives of the parents. Can't have that, now can we?
Notice how the pro-illegals don't mind a bit when their beloved illegals are threatening to abandon their children if they have to go back to Mexico and work to support those kids instead of getting very generous welfare handouts for them?

Not a problem when the parents themselves are hurting their own kids feelings by insisting they will simply leave them here instead of taking them home with them when they go. The kids don't matter at all if they can't be exploited for the benefit of the parents.
 
Old 12-24-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: SELA
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It's the parents who are to be blamed. All those illegals who come over here to give birth with the intention of using that baby to not only collect food stamps and other welfare handouts, let the taxpayers pay for the hospital stays and then get the child onto Medicaid, insist that because they gave birth here they are to be given a free pass around the immigration laws and expect that as soon as the child can, they will be sponsored along with all other kinds of relatives.
Empirical research evidences that Mexican immigration patterns are not motivated by welfare exploitation, namely Explaining Mexican-Immigrant Welfare Behaviors: The Importance of Employment-Related Cultural Repertoires: "Social scientists generally seek to explain welfare-related behaviors in terms of economic, social structural, or culture of poverty theories. Such explanations, however, do not account for nativity differences in public assistance receipt among immigrants of Mexican origin. This article draws on the sociology of migration and culture literatures to develop a materialist-based cultural repertoire account and attendant hypotheses to explain the welfare behaviors of Mexican immigrants. We argue that such immigrants arrive and work in the United States under circumstances that foster employment-based cultural repertoires that, compared with natives and other immigrant groups, encourage less welfare participation (in part because such repertoires lead to faster welfare exits) and more postwelfare employment. This is particularly true in states with relatively more generous welfare policies. Using individual-level data predating the Welfare Reform Act, from multiple panels of the Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP) merged with state-level information on welfare benefit levels, we examine immigrant-group differences in welfare receipt, retention, and transition to employment across locales with varying levels of welfare benefits. Findings are largely consistent with our cultural repertoire account: Mexican immigrants tend to utilize welfare not primarily to avoid work, cope with disadvantage, or perpetuate a culture of dependency, but rather to minimize the effects of employment discontinuities. Such findings carry important theoretical and policy implications-implications we outline in our conclusion."
 
Old 12-24-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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Exactly! How is it dehumanizing to the baby? The term is actually referring to their parent's attempt to anchor themselves onto our country by giving birth here. Of course if the pro-illegals couldn't use terms like "dehumanizing a baby" to demonize us they would have to admit to the lawbreaking and motives of the parents. Can't have that, now can we?
lol The term is used directly towards the kids born here not the parents.
If it was directly towards the actions of their parents then it wouldn't be
anchor *BABY*. The term is a noun not a verb describing an action, especially in past tense.

And yes their parents broke the law but what to do with them is a complicated matter as I have been saying.
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