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Old 12-30-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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Actually you are the one that is wrong. I quoted the price from your prior post.

And they must go through the same procedure as a B1/B2 visa but must as well demonstrate that they have ties to Mexico that would compel them to return after a temporary stay in the United States.

So unless they can prove they are not likely to stay in the US they cannot get the card.

They must as well have a Mexican passport.

That all takes a whole lot more doing than paying $140.
The BCC is in lieu of a passport, if they have the passport, they don't need the BCC.

Now how can any Mexican really prove they are not going to stay in the USA when so very many do? That's kind of a sham rule, a great number of those with border crossing cards cross daily to head to jobs they have here illegally.

It's extremely common - my neighbors live over here, work here but go home on weekends on their border crossing card. They are not legally working. That means they don't actually work in Mexico but probably just got someone to claim they do, or got the BCC when they were working and then found jobs here.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:15 PM
 
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The BCC is in lieu of a passport, if they have the passport, they don't need the BCC.

Now how can any Mexican really prove they are not going to stay in the USA when so very many do? That's kind of a sham rule, a great number of those with border crossing cards cross daily to head to jobs they have here illegally.

It's extremely common - my neighbors live over here, work here but go home on weekends on their border crossing card. They are not legally working. That means they don't actually work in Mexico but probably just got someone to claim they do, or got the BCC when they were working and then found jobs here.
The passport is required by the US to get a border card.

A guy coming up from the south is going to have a hell of a time pulling a phoney job off.

I would expect it can be beaten. Someone who does have property and a job in Mexico uses a card to get entry into the US. But the vast portion of the population ain't ever going to get one of those.

It is simply a practical tool for those who live on the border. Such things virtually always exist. And they can be abused. But if properly administered it does not happen much.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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So I'm from Germany and like to visit friends from Texas. Should I not be able to do this anymore? You realize that tourist visas are only given to tourist from 1st world countries, right?

Visitor Visas - Business and Pleasure
It's not just first world countries that can get visas - its most countries. That table is the visa waiver list - you can come into the US for a short period without needing a visa from a US embassy / consulate beforehand...
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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80% of the people that come here on some sort of visa never leave.
Oh, come on.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The BCC is in lieu of a passport, if they have the passport, they don't need the BCC...
Absolutely wrong, you're spouting off garbage again...
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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Absolutely wrong, you're spouting off garbage again...
Even if it's now required to have a passport, they're quite cheap. All one has to do is look at the people crossing over from Juarez who have legitimate papers to know it's not costly at all to get them. Some of these border crossers really have little money.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Even if it's now required to have a passport, they're quite cheap. All one has to do is look at the people crossing over from Juarez who have legitimate papers to know it's not costly at all to get them. Some of these border crossers really have little money.
You are implying that all the people who pay coyotes are rich?

Really?
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Even if it's now required to have a passport, they're quite cheap. All one has to do is look at the people crossing over from Juarez who have legitimate papers to know it's not costly at all to get them. Some of these border crossers really have little money.
Wrong again, Legal Permanent Residents from Mexico can cross with their Resident Card, no passport required. Unless the Mexican passport has a visa imprint is is useless to have it for crossing into the United States. You have a big habit of making up stories, but fit in well with others talking about 50 million illegal aliens.
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:32 AM
 
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Wrong again, Legal Permanent Residents from Mexico can cross with their Resident Card, no passport required. Unless the Mexican passport has a visa imprint is is useless to have it for crossing into the United States. You have a big habit of making up stories, but fit in well with others talking about 50 million illegal aliens.
Aw c´mon man! Are you implying that he is wrong? But he knows Mexico better than us Mexicans! He even knows Mexicans better than us Mexicans!

Back on topic, Mexicans NEED to show a valid MEXICAN PASSPORT when aplying for or renewing a B1/B2 visa. Is not new, is not optional. Please anti-Mexican crowd, cut the BS and stop trying so hard to appear as someone who knows Mexico and its people.

Sheeez!
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Aw c´mon man! Are you implying that he is wrong? But he knows Mexico better than us Mexicans! He even knows Mexicans better than us Mexicans!

Back on topic, Mexicans NEED to show a valid MEXICAN PASSPORT when applying for or renewing a B1/B2 visa. Is not new, is not optional. Please anti-Mexican crowd, cut the BS and stop trying so hard to appear as someone who knows Mexico and its people.

Sheeez!
He lives among the illegals, as he says, but does nothing about it. But the stories are easy to discount, at least if you aren't one to believe the other wild claims here. Getting a Tourist Visa in Mexico to visit here, without following the requirements, it would be easier to win the lottery.
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