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Old 12-28-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Amnesty Would Have a Present Cost of $1 Trillion

In 2007, the Heritage Foundation issued two studies, one on the cost of low-skilled immigration and one on the cost of amnesty. The study on the cost of low-skilled immigrationnoted that low-skilled immigrants do work hard: “It is important to note, these families are rarely idle; they consistently work and pay taxes. However, the taxes they pay are seldom, if ever, sufficient to cover the cost of the government benefits they receive. In consequence, these households must be continually subsidized by other taxpayers.” The Heritage study concluded that low-skilled immigrant households will cost native born U.S. taxpayers $89.1 billion per year over each of the next 30 years.

The Heritage report estimated that illegal residents comprise 41 percent of low-skilled immigrant households.1 Simple multiplication indicates that illegal-immigrant households cost the U.S. taxpayer $36.5 billion each year. Over 30 years, that works out to $1.1 trillion in costs. Using a financial calculator, we assumed a discount rate of 5 percent, and computed the net present value of a cost stream of $36.5 over the next 30 years to be $589 billion.

Cost to Taxpayer for Government Benefits to Illegal Aliens:
Years Cost Each Year Total Cost Present Cost @ 5% discount rate
2007-2037 $36.5 billion $1.1 trillion $589 billion
2038-2056 $144.5 billion $2.6 trillion $410 billion
$999 billion



Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement - Smart Girl Politics

If Obama gets re-selected this is what our future generations will have to look forward to.
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Old 12-28-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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Is it surprising that a study done by an organization supporting enforcement would come out with these results? "Studies" done by biased sources are irrelevant in any situation.
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:10 PM
 
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Is it surprising that a study done by an organization supporting enforcement would come out with these results? "Studies" done by biased sources are irrelevant in any situation.
Really? What does their support of enforcement have to do with the statistical results? Please provide proof/justification of your allegations.
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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Less than half of all illegals have even a high school diploma. Thus they are low skilled workers who have little ability to command high wages in the marketplace. They also have the additional handicap of poor English skills as many don't feel the need to bother with English much if at all. Common sense would indicate that as low skilled, badly educated workers who don't even speak English they are hardly like to be net economic contributors if we gave them citizenship as a reward for violating our immigration laws. Our own low skilled laborers have been highly unsuccessful in gaining any leverage at all in the workforce. Recent decades have seen their wages not only fail to keep up with inflation but actively fall. Part of this problem stems from illegal immigrants who have carelessly driven down wages of our own poorest citizenship.

This is all common sense. One need not be a conservative to believe that it is unfair to punish our own citizens by importing more people to compete with them. As a taxpayer I certainly reserve the right to argue against granting foreign criminals the right to gain access to the EITC, let alone food stamps or housing assistance.
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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Is it surprising that a study done by an organization supporting enforcement would come out with these results? "Studies" done by biased sources are irrelevant in any situation.
One can't support the enforcement of our immigration laws and also do viable research on the costs of having illegal aliens in our country? They are automatically biased?
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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Our own high school dropouts aren't cheap.

High School Dropouts Costly for American Economy - CBS News

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Dropouts cost taxpayers more than $8 billion annually in public assistance programs like food stamps. High school dropouts earn about $10 thousand less a year than workers with diplomas. That's $300 billion in lost earnings every year. They're more likely to be unemployed: 15 percent are out of work versus a national average of 9.4 percent. They also are more likely to be incarcerated. Almost 60 percent of federal inmates are high school drop outs.
Why should we add Mexico's?

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Old 12-28-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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I'm surprised it's even debated. Importing poverty leads to, guess what, more poverty to the Nation allowing it. Shocking.

Somehow a few think someone picking berries for a few bucks an hour somehow nixes what they cost the US Govt and it's tax payers. Our schools are in shambles and that's just example one.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:24 PM
 
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One can't support the enforcement of our immigration laws and also do viable research on the costs of having illegal aliens in our country? They are automatically biased?
Yes! It is just common sense. In the end, no organization will release a study that contradicts their position on an issue.
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While there are many facets to an intelligent immigration reform package, one thing is clear: legalization for undocumented immigrants helps all of us
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/sit...dji_110509.pdf

If you disagree with what I'm saying then who is right? Heritage Foundation or immigration policy center. I'm really dying to hear your response to this one.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:26 PM
 
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Really? What does their support of enforcement have to do with the statistical results? Please provide proof/justification of your allegations.
Statistics provided by an anti-immigrant organization? I'll take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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Statistics provided by an anti-immigrant organization? I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Anti-"immigrant" organization? I rest my case about the lies of the advocates for illegal aliens. The proof is in the pudding right here.
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