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Old 12-31-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Not a surprise considering NAFTA opened the floodgates for American companies to go there. Anyone who has been to any Mexican city of any decent size sees McDonalds, Starbucks, Wendys, KFC, etc. America's biggest export is obesity.
If that's Mexico's answer for its problems; blame everyone else instead of its own failings, then Mexico is truly a mess.

 
Old 12-31-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Are you discussing Mexican people? Starving isn't an issue in Mexico. Obesity IS. So having to go back home to Mexico unlike maybe Somalia isn't a death sentence.
Yes, Mexico is the Number One country in obesity rates. We're only second.

It's a pure lie that the pro-open borders crowd likes to put out that all the people in Mexico are starving to death.

You can travel all over Mexico and not see one starved to death person, however there may be meth addicts who are on the skinny side -- just like in the USA, or parents who neglect their children.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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If that's Mexico's answer for its problems; blame everyone else instead of its own failings, then Mexico is truly a mess.
Not only that but their native diet is full of fat and calories. So blaming U.S. fast food restaurants for that alone is ludicrous.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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I could tell you what cultural values we don't share with certain ethnic groups but that is a topic for another forum.
In question was countries that share "American cultural values", but if you want to make it about ethnic groupings, go right ahead...

I thought that illegal immigration wasn't supposed to be about race...
 
Old 12-31-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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We definitely need to increase the legal immigration paths, though I'd rather there was some balance, with more Europeans, Aussies, Canadians, and other peoples who share American cultural values instead of mostly Hispanics.
Every time others accuse the anti-illegal immigration people of having these views they are attacked.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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People are talking about starving Mexicans. I pointed out that most Mexicans aren't starving. In fact most are fat. Another poster talked about people who make three dollars an hour. I pointed out that most people consider it grossly irresponsible to have children when you cannot support yourself.

The implication was that we are heartless to ask people to go back to a country where more than the people half are fat and that it is okay to have children when you cannot support yourself. Those implications are ridiculous.
Source for the "starving Mexicans"? Any number of the purported stories about support for illegals turn out to be right wing myths. I suspect this is one.

Or is it a private myth of Elenora?
 
Old 12-31-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Source for the "starving Mexicans"? Any number of the purported stories about support for illegals turn out to be right wing myths. I suspect this is one.

Or is it a private myth of Elenora?
The OP never said Mexicans were starving, but rather that they should be starved. Big difference
 
Old 12-31-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Oh, I'm not going to get into that red herring, IBM. I realize that no matter what I respond with you can attack me on that, because "culture" is vague and hard to pin down. Just concentrate on the important parts of the post, not that casual opinion.
I would point out that the DREAMIES are virtually perfect cultural fits but are rejected here.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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The OP never said Mexicans were starving, but rather that they should be starved. Big difference
Eleanora clearly states that "starving Mexicans" is a standard defense of open borders. I don't think so. Would you care to cite a few examples of where illegal supporters claim people are starving in Mexico?
 
Old 12-31-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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Eleanora clearly states that "starving Mexicans" is a standard defense of open borders. I don't think so. Would you care to cite a few examples of where illegal supporters claim people are starving in Mexico?
I didn't notice her post. I personally haven't heard any supporters of illegal immigrants using the "starving" argument.

I was referring to the title of the OP, in which the OP suggested that starving illegals is a good way to get rid of them. Such a warm Christmas time sentiment.
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