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Old 12-31-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by jbcmh81 View Post
Illegals, living the high life at $3 an hour.
Compared to pesos? You need a reality check.

 
Old 12-31-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just untrue. I have substituted a number of times in a good middle school with a substantial Hispanic population. The vast majority of the Hispanics speak English flawlessly.
Ya, just not the Parents who never show for any school related subject. They pretty much use the school to feed, educate and raise their offspring. Thank GOD they halted busing in San Diego from the border.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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In question was countries that share "American cultural values", but if you want to make it about ethnic groupings, go right ahead...

I thought that illegal immigration wasn't supposed to be about race...
Are you denying that the Italians, Germans, the French, Mexicans and every other country in the world doesn't have a majority ethnic makeup and identifying culture in their countries just as the USA does? Ethnicity isn't race so I don't understand your question. We are incompatible with some nations based on their cultural beliefs.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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I didn't notice her post. I personally haven't heard any supporters of illegal immigrants using the "starving" argument.

I was referring to the title of the OP, in which the OP suggested that starving illegals is a good way to get rid of them. Such a warm Christmas time sentiment.
Check out the numerous pro-illegal blogs and forums and you will see that statement made by them all the time that Mexicans are coming here because they and their kids are starving.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 05:10 PM
 
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of a truth, every time u hire pedro to mow the lawn while your unemployed son sits on the couch playing X box games, u r contributing to the problem.
Agreed, but don't stereotype all Americans in that way. It is usually the rich that would hire illegals while their son sits on the couch, not your regular American.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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Check out the numerous pro-illegal blogs and forums and you will see that statement made by them all the time that Mexicans are coming here because they and their kids are starving.
I google the relevant terms and got right wingers and pre 1930 documents.

It would appear it is yet another anti myth.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 05:51 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Agreed, but don't stereotype all Americans in that way. It is usually the rich that would hire illegals while their son sits on the couch, not your regular American.
Yes. It's not liberals vs conservatives on illegal immigration, it's middle class and poor vs well-to-do. I'm a liberal to the point of being socialist in some ways, but I'm against illegal immigration. They don't require a decent wage nor benefits, while union members do - thus the unions are being crushed because everyone is hiring illegals. The illegals' living standards are increasing while ours are plummeting.

Business owners and the wealthy are almost invariably in favor of allowing unrestricted immigration violating the laws of this country because they directly benefit from it - and that includes my liberal and wealthy brother. They own the political system so they get their way. Top Republican and Democrat leaders, especially presidents, have been united in urging that our immigration laws be broken.

For those who favor maintaining the status quo - do you also open the doors of your home freely to any homeless people who might want to live with you?
 
Old 12-31-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Agreed, but don't stereotype all Americans in that way. It is usually the rich that would hire illegals while their son sits on the couch, not your regular American.
u mean when we accuse our wasp neighbors of hiring illegals to mow the lawn we are practicing discrimination????? aka stereotyping our neighbors?
i did not know my neighbors were rich. they dont think they are.
they are just trying to save some money and avoid asking jr to do some work.
not arguing with jr keeps mama happy.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Compared to pesos? You need a reality check.
I've actually lived in Mexico in the past. I know what the minimum wage is there. What's your experience?

Also, it's all relative. Making $3 an hour is disastrous poverty in the US.
 
Old 12-31-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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u mean when we accuse our wasp neighbors of hiring illegals to mow the lawn we are practicing discrimination????? aka stereotyping our neighbors?
i did not know my neighbors were rich. they dont think they are.
they are just trying to save some money and avoid asking jr to do some work.
not arguing with jr keeps mama happy.
The point was that most Americans do not hire illegal aliens and their sons/daughters are not taught to be lazy.
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