Illegals cost American citizens millions in medical care (born, pro illegals, law)

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Odd but I didnt read that anywhere in that post. That said at the very least the illegals nation of origin should be billed and illegal sent home as soon as they are stable.

It's a logical conclusion to the opinion that illegals should not be given free medical care in the ER.

[libertylover7]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Odd but I didnt read that anywhere in that post. That said at the very least the illegals nation of origin should be billed and illegal sent home as soon as they are stable.

Why in the world do you expect any other nation to agree? Guy has been here 20 years paying taxes and residing. Why on earth would his home nation agree to repatriate him.

You employ them...you own them. Take it up with your own business men.

I would agree we should not be jamming the cost down the throat of the hospitals...but that is an anti thing. The politicians are afraid to pick up the cost at the national or state level as they should.

[antarez]

Originally Posted by libertylover7

Why in the world do you expect any other nation to agree? Guy has been here 20 years paying taxes and residing. Why on earth would his home nation agree to repatriate him.

You employ them...you own them. Take it up with your own business men.

I would agree we should not be jamming the cost down the throat of the hospitals...but that is an anti thing. The politicians are afraid to pick up the cost at the national or state level as they should.

No the US and it's taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill for ignorant lawbreakers that refuse to follow immigration laws PERIOD !!!!

If this issue is important to lovers of illegal aliens they can always send them a check themselves instead of expecting someone else to pay for people that refuse to follow the laws.

[NYChistorygal]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Actually, any Americans without health insurance can and do go to the ER. The system is set up so that medical care is available for anyone who needs it, no matter their status.

How are they going to pay for it? The patient still gets the bill.

[EvocatusCenturion]

Originally Posted by antarez

No the US and it's taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill for ignorant lawbreakers that refuse to follow immigration laws PERIOD !!!!

If this issue is important to lovers of illegal aliens they can always send them a check themselves instead of expecting someone else to pay for people that refuse to follow the laws.

Give amnesty to the ones who stay out of trouble and deport the rest. That way they can finally receive medical insurance, something many people born here refuse to do like say for example...many Mexican Americans.

It's sad those born here still leech off of the populace. I would trade one of them for a hard working immigrant.

[antarez]

Originally Posted by EvocatusCenturion

Give amnesty to the ones who stay out of trouble and deport the rest. That way they can finally receive medical insurance, something many people born here refuse to do like say for example...many Mexican Americans.

It's sad those born here still leech off of the populace. I would trade one of them for a hard working immigrant.

Wouldn't work. The Illegals amnestied would be assisting friends and relatives to Illegally enter, thereby you would just be setting up a support system for more illegals.

Just like after the Reagan Amnesty.

You do have a good idea with trading losers in the US for hard working Mexicans or other immigrants, it's too bad that it's near impossible to do.

[IBMMuseum]

Originally Posted by AnnieA

than why don't they get shipped back there for their care if it is such a good system. Why should we have to pay for it ?

Here's a possible scenario for some opinions to weigh in. Say for New Grandbaby's birth (mother is a Mexican citizen, with Legal Permanent Resident status), some of the expense could be covered by Medicare. The mother hasn't been present for more than five years as a Legal Permanent Resident, so doesn't qualify for government benefits herself.

Should New Grandbaby be able to access Medicare benefits as a U.S. citizen, with a mother that is present lawfully? How should the baby's status change if the mother was an illegal alien? In other words, how much monetary value is allowed for being a Foreign National following the law?

We touched on this aspect before with Legal Residents (and even spouses, or parents of U.S. citizens) requiring long-term care not qualifying for benefits...

[chicagonut]

Originally Posted by IBMMuseum

Here's a possible scenario for some opinions to weigh in. Say for New Grandbaby's birth (mother is a Mexican citizen, with Legal Permanent Resident status), some of the expense could be covered by Medicare. The mother hasn't been present for more than five years as a Legal Permanent Resident, so doesn't qualify for government benefits herself.

Should New Grandbaby be able to access Medicare benefits as a U.S. citizen, with a mother that is present lawfully? How should the baby's status change if the mother was an illegal alien? In other words, how much monetary value is allowed for being a Foreign National following the law?

We touched on this aspect before with Legal Residents (and even spouses, or parents of U.S. citizens) requiring long-term care not qualifying for benefits...

I think you must have meant Medicaid rather than Medicare, right? Medicare is for seniors.

I would think that the spouse or relative that sponsored the "legal" foreigner should be held responsible for their medical bills including the costs of them giving birth here. Again, this has nothing to do with illegal immigration.

As for a mother here illegally giving birth on our soil unfortunately we have to foot the bill because the baby is considered to be a U.S. citizen. What needs to change is birthright citizenship and that would not only deter illegals from coming here and giving birth but only provide the mother with emergency care for the birth rather than years and years of welfare benefits for her child.

[chicagonut]

Originally Posted by antarez

Wouldn't work. The Illegals amnestied would be assisting friends and relatives to Illegally enter, thereby you would just be setting up a support system for more illegals.

Just like after the Reagan Amnesty.

You do have a good idea with trading losers in the US for hard working Mexicans or other immigrants, it's too bad that it's near impossible to do.

I disagree with your last sentence. Every country has their losers but they still have a right to be here as citizens. The solution is to make sure these losers are contributing to our society, not importing foreingers to replace them. Besides, doesn't every nation need their hard workers to keep their own countries successful?

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by NYChistorygal

How are they going to pay for it? The patient still gets the bill.

How do most people pay for it? I suspect it comes down to employment and financial stability. Most US citizens are not in a financial position to pay the ridiculously high medical costs. This seems like less a problem with illegals to me than our skyrocketing medical costs (which were not caused by illegals).