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Old 01-02-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/ny...1&ref=nyregion
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Medicaid often pays for emergency care for illegal immigrants, but not for continuing care, and many hospitals in places with large concentrations of illegal immigrants, like Texas, California and Florida, face the quandary of where to send patients well enough to leave. Officials in New York City say they have many such patients who are draining money from the health system as the cost of keeping people in acute-care hospitals continues to escalate.

But even if Medicaid pays for some care, taxpayer dollars are ultimately being consumed by patients who could be cared for in nursing homes or other health facilities, and even at home if supportive services were available. Care for a patient languishing in a hospital can cost more than $100,000 a year, while care in a nursing home can cost $20,000 or less.
This is ridiculous. The solution is simple: send them home even if they don't want to go home. The Chinese government and the man's son are responsible for this guy's medical bills. Not the US taxpayers.

Ugh. Millions of Americans go without necessary medical care yet illegals get treated for free.

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Old 01-03-2012, 02:01 AM
 
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I so agree with you. As i also know many fine hard working Americans who cannot get coverage becasue of certain pre-conditions. Some common sense is not the way of the land.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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I just read this article.

The nation's hospitals are strained by illegals, some of which have closed which degrade the health care for all of us.

This is a disgusting situation. Sanctuary cities, where these hospitals tend to be, should be declared illegal by the government.

Certainly, these people should be shipped back to the countries that they came from. The trip to Mexico is a lot shorter than to China, no?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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This is ridiculous. The solution is simple: send them home even if they don't want to go home. The Chinese government and the man's son are responsible for this guy's medical bills. Not the US taxpayers.

Ugh. Millions of Americans go without necessary medical care yet illegals get treated for free.

Actually, any Americans without health insurance can and do go to the ER. The system is set up so that medical care is available for anyone who needs it, no matter their status.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Also, I'm guessing that the majority of a hospital's costs due to a litigious society as well as our own laws making medical care extremely expensive. Mexico actually subsidizes most basic services, from certain utilities to medical costs. When I lived there, gas and water were as little as $5 a month because the government paid for most of it. And the one time I needed an exam to be certified for a job, I walked in without an appointment, paid in cash (less than $10) and got all of the standard checkup that I would've gotten here in the US. They didn't give a crap about insurance, which is very rare in Mexico due to government subsidies. They simply don't need it. The only time medical care was equivalent to the US was at pharmacies. Some medicines were just as expensive as in the US, though most were about half the cost.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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Actually, any Americans without health insurance can and do go to the ER. The system is set up so that medical care is available for anyone who needs it, no matter their status.
And you know what happens to them? They screw over their credit rating when they do that. Many Americans declare bankruptcy each year because of medical bills, We need national health care. National health care that covers Americans in America legally and does not cover foreign nationals here in violation of our laws. The people in question are public burdens and should be shipped home.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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And you know what happens to them? They screw over their credit rating when they do that. Many Americans declare bankruptcy each year because of medical bills, We need national health care. National health care that covers Americans in America legally and does not cover foreign nationals here in violation of our laws. The people in question are public burdens and should be shipped home.
So I suppose that you are saying that anyone in need of emergency care, especially illegals, should simply be allowed to die on the street.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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So I suppose that you are saying that anyone in need of emergency care, especially illegals, should simply be allowed to die on the street.
Odd but I didnt read that anywhere in that post. That said at the very least the illegals nation of origin should be billed and illegal sent home as soon as they are stable.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Also, I'm guessing that the majority of a hospital's costs due to a litigious society as well as our own laws making medical care extremely expensive. Mexico actually subsidizes most basic services, from certain utilities to medical costs. When I lived there, gas and water were as little as $5 a month because the government paid for most of it. And the one time I needed an exam to be certified for a job, I walked in without an appointment, paid in cash (less than $10) and got all of the standard checkup that I would've gotten here in the US. They didn't give a crap about insurance, which is very rare in Mexico due to government subsidies. They simply don't need it. The only time medical care was equivalent to the US was at pharmacies. Some medicines were just as expensive as in the US, though most were about half the cost.
than why don't they get shipped back there for their care if it is such a good system. Why should we have to pay for it ?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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than why don't they get shipped back there for their care if it is such a good system. Why should we have to pay for it ?
Because if we are talking about the reasons why people come the US illegally, it's probably not about medical care, but rather overall quality of life, most importantly, employment.
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