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Old 01-06-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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Obama is the toughest president on Immigration in 50 years. You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
BS my man. I guess his efforts to circumvent what the poor citizens of arizona have tried to do doesnt count? Just what has he DONE to address the illegality and those who have broken our laws? ps talk dont count
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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Obama is the toughest president on Immigration in 50 years. You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
No he's not, don't even try to throw that BS out there because it's not true.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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So he wants to allow illegals to stay or atleast not stay away as long as they normally would have to.
What about the many legal immigrants waiting their turn to sponsor their family members? Will he also shorten their wait? I mean they unlike the illegals didnt break any laws to get here and in fact obeyed our laws. Nothing like rewarding criminal behavior to show that crime doesnt pay.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Why can't they take their families back to the homeland with them while they are waiting for their applications to go through? I still don't think it right that they get to jump to the head of the line or have their applications processed at the same time that potential immigrants who are waitiing in their homelands for their applications to be processed are. Since we only allow in a million immigrants per year it only stands to reason that some of those already waiting will be pushed to the back of the line because our quotas will be used up sooner by this policy.

Obama is just pandering for the Hispanic vote on this one. He knows he is on shakey ground with most non-hispanics so he is getting desperate.
Show me one poll showing a republican beating Obama in the general elections. There is no way Romney with his hardline stance on immigrations is going to get even 20 percent of the Latino vote. Good luck winning the white house without a good chunk of the Latino, black, women and minority vote.


Falling jobless rate is good news for Obama

Jobless rate falls to nearly 3-year low - The Washington Post

None of these GOP clowns stand a chance against Obama.
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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Show me one poll showing a republican beating Obama in the general elections. There is no way Romney with his hardline stance on immigrations is going to get even 20 percent of the Latino vote. Good luck winning the white house without a good chunk of the Latino, black, women and minority vote.


Falling jobless rate is good news for Obama

Jobless rate falls to nearly 3-year low - The Washington Post

None of these GOP clowns stand a chance against Obama.
Many blacks may sit OUT the election this time because they ain't happy with Obama. Few Hispanics can vote and not all of them want amnesty. What helped Obama in 2008 was the Independent vote; many of them WON'T vote for him again.
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Old 01-07-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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Many blacks may sit OUT the election this time because they ain't happy with Obama. Few Hispanics can vote and not all of them want amnesty. What helped Obama in 2008 was the Independent vote; many of them WON'T vote for him again.
Wishful thinking on your part, but we will just have to wait and see.

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Old 01-07-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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Show me one poll showing a republican beating Obama in the general elections. There is no way Romney with his hardline stance on immigrations is going to get even 20 percent of the Latino vote. Good luck winning the white house without a good chunk of the Latino, black, women and minority vote.


Falling jobless rate is good news for Obama

Jobless rate falls to nearly 3-year low - The Washington Post

None of these GOP clowns stand a chance against Obama.
Clowns? So you are saying that the Republican candidate doesn't stand a chance with most Latinos? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that most Republicans expect our immigration laws to be respected and enforced, would it? What makes you think they wouldn't get the female vote? Other minorities have always been mostly Democrats. That's nothing new.

What hardline stance is Romney taking on illegal immigration? Is it hardline to follow the laws on the books? It's still several months before the election. I wouldn't count my chickens if I were you.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:39 PM
 
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Clowns? So you are saying that the Republican candidate doesn't stand a chance with most Latinos? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that most Republicans expect our immigration laws to be respected and enforced, would it? What makes you think they wouldn't get the female vote? Other minorities have always been mostly Democrats. That's nothing new.

What hardline stance is Romney taking on illegal immigration? Is it hardline to follow the laws on the books? It's still several months before the election. I wouldn't count my chickens if I were you.
The latinos might be mad at Obama because he couldnt pass an inmigration reform but they will never vote Republican because they know the only "friends" they have are the Democrats. With a Democrat as a president there could be few chances of an inmigration reform but with a republican president the chances are zero and the latinos know this. So, this 2012 the latinos are going democrat again and Obama will win.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:50 AM
 
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The latinos might be mad at Obama because he couldnt pass an inmigration reform but they will never vote Republican because they know the only "friends" they have are the Democrats. With a Democrat as a president there could be few chances of an inmigration reform but with a republican president the chances are zero and the latinos know this. So, this 2012 the latinos are going democrat again and Obama will win.
"Immigration reform" is nothing more than another way to say amnesty and therefore free stuff for low skilled Mexican nationals paid for by the American taxpayer. That ought to be political suicide for any pol of any party.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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Why is it important to Latino "citizens" to have an immigration reform aka amnesty? Care to give an honest answer?
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