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Old 01-08-2012, 04:38 PM
 
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Supposedly many Central Americans like Guatemalans feed that belief by saying they're "Mexican" when caught by ICE since it's a much shorter deport distance.
Yes and actually you are right. Many Guatemalans have purchased Mexican birth certificates, they're usually smart enough to buy one that makes it appear they were born in Chiapas so that if they're caught in Mexico, they will pass as Mexicans -- to the Mexican army.

The only thing though, that's not the document they should buy when trying to fool the Mexican army, but it does fool the Americans agents.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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When they are the LARGEST number by far, the most VOCAL complainers by far and the biggest problem what would you expect?

In Italy and Spain most Illegals come from North Africa, so that's where most of their Illegal problem is from.

If the US bordered Mongolia or Finland then they would be the biggest problem.

The US borders Mexico and with Mexico's income disparity, Mexico's cultural acceptance of corruption and disregard for laws and numerous Mexican Illegals already here and unscrupilous employers as a magnet it's easy for most all but the OP to see why they are most referenced.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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But we've learned that you are so unrealistic in your numbers, besides identifying verified U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents as "illegal aliens", that it makes belief in that opinion irrational...

What are you basing your opinion that the United States looks like a "smaller version" of Mexico? Does looking like Mexico mean that there are illegal aliens present? Have you been to Mexico, or areas in the United States that make any number you pull out (from wherever) more realistic than organizations that are more familiar in population numbering?
Who is we? You continue to interegate me no matter what I post. Yet you never post anything plausible to back up whatever you object to. I am basing my opinions on the information that is available from various and numerous websites on the internet.

You continually base your whining on your personal feelings about illegal immigration but never post anything to confirm your personal opinions or dispute whatever statistics or information that I have posted.

As for America resembling Mexico, all one needs to do is travel to various cities, it's so obvious even Stevie Wonder can see it.

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Old 01-08-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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But we've learned that you are so unrealistic in your numbers, besides identifying verified U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents as "illegal aliens", that it makes belief in that opinion irrational...

What are you basing your opinion that the United States looks like a "smaller version" of Mexico? Does looking like Mexico mean that there are illegal aliens present? Have you been to Mexico, or areas in the United States that make any number you pull out (from wherever) more realistic than organizations that are more familiar in population numbering?

In fairness, none of the numbers thrown out there regarding illegal immigration hold much water since they are all based on speculation. Anytime there is speculation there will also be bias. In fact one of the links within that link posted shows a graph of incarcerated Hispanic youth being higher than the Caucasian population yet uses a disclaimer saying they aren't correct due to methodology. One has to ask why they bothered a post an invalid graph if it weren't simply to deceive.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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All of the illegals I see speack MEXICAN.....Thats another reason people focus on them.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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All of the illegals I see speack MEXICAN.....Thats another reason people focus on them.
Ah, yes, a statement that really shows your position well...
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Who is we? You continue to interegate me no matter what I post. Yet you never post anything plausible to back up whatever you object to. I am basing my opinions on the information that is available from various and numerous websites on the internet.

You continually base your whining on your personal feelings about illegal immigration but never post anything to confirm your personal opinions or dispute whatever statistics or information that I have posted.

As for America resembling Mexico, all one needs to do is travel to various cities, it's so obvious even Stevie Wonder can see it.
What does "interegate" mean? Where do "various and numerous websites on the internet" source their information (or even throw out a few names)? Are sites you find on the Internet necessarily truthful?
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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FYI, for the umpteenth time I have never assumed because someone is speaking Spanish they are here illegally and have several kids and I doubt most other Americans do either. This is just pro-illegal propaganda meant to demonize anyone who is opposed to illegal immigration and play the victim hard for Hispanics in general.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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It's probably true that many people see Guatemalans and assume they Mexican -- but then again, Guatemala was once part of Mexico and there's not all that much difference in the people.

It can happen to Canadians who travel in Mexico, people sometimes will assume they are "gringos" until they learn they are not.

Usually it's the pro-illegals more than anything because when they talk about having open borders and unlimited rights for people to come here illegally and no limits on immigration, even they don't generally mean this for the whole world. They usually mean no immigration laws for "la raza", not necessarily unlimited immigration for all the people of Asia, Africa, Europe.
Really? I never heard of that. Just because someone holds a sign advocating rights for Mexican nationals during a counter protest focusing on illegal Mexicans doesn't mean they don't think the same rights apply for other people from different countries.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:57 PM
 
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At the end of the day, anyone in this country illegally does not have the right or permission to be here and needs to go home. I don't care what race or nationality they are.

As Americans this is our home and we do not appreciate illegal aliens assuming that we are happy and willing to be the flop house to the world.
Some Americans think this way, some are in between, and some disagree altogether.

Do not speak for all Americans. Immigration legal or not is a grey area.

And if the governmemt doesn't want to close up the borders or if they want to give amnesty as an option, then maybe you should respect the AMERICAN government or go for election yourself.
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