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Old 01-09-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Measures aim to reduce financial burden of illegal immigration on AZ taxpayers - Local News - Phoenix, AZ - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45911661/ns/local_news-phoenix_az/ - broken link)

Even though proof of legal status would be required, illegal children would not be denied an education nor would hospital treatment be denied to illegals.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I dont see it as a bad thing at all.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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No one wants us to know the true costs.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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sounds like he wants to shift the burden of immigration issues to teachers and doctors. Not very fair to the teachers or doctors, let them teach and heal and let the INS handle these cases.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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sounds like he wants to shift the burden of immigration issues to teachers and doctors. Not very fair to the teachers or doctors, let them teach and heal and let the INS handle these cases.
Teachers or doctors wouldn't have to ask that kind of information from their patients and students. Hospital and school admitters would. They already do ask for I.D., insurance papers, immunization records so what's the big deal? That is why I am for allowing local cops to be able to check the status in this country of those individuals who can't produce a valid I.D. when stopped. The feds can't be everywhere.

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Old 01-09-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Measures aim to reduce financial burden of illegal immigration on AZ taxpayers - Local News - Phoenix, AZ - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45911661/ns/local_news-phoenix_az/ - broken link)

Even though proof of legal status would be required, illegal children would not be denied an education nor would hospital treatment be denied to illegals.
So then why bother? The kids are still going to go to school and they're still going to get care in the hospital. I swear, we have the nuttiest legislature known to man. They can't get enough of passing futile legislation that either can't be or won't be enforced. If he thinks this legislation would act as a deterrent, then he doesn't know what state he lives in as much as he thinks he does.

It was the same with 1070....most of the Sheriffs and local police were never going to enforce the law anyway outside of Maricopa County. Those idiots up there are giving the state a bad name.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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So then why bother? The kids are still going to go to school and they're still going to get care in the hospital. I swear, we have the nuttiest legislature known to man. They can't get enough of passing futile legislation that either can't be or won't be enforced. If he thinks this legislation would act as a deterrent, then he doesn't know what state he lives in as much as he thinks he does.

It was the same with 1070....most of the Sheriffs and local police were never going to enforce the law anyway outside of Maricopa County. Those idiots up there are giving the state a bad name.

Why is it giving the state a bad name? Maybe they want to give a go at making the Feds pay the bills since they won't enforce the laws. What's wrong with trying to come up with some valid research on the issue?

If all states did this we would know once and for all what the true costs are. If they are as low as the pro illegals say they are maybe more people would be sympathetic to their cause. Why not deal with facts instead of speculation?
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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Why is it giving the state a bad name? Maybe they want to give a go at making the Feds pay the bills since they won't enforce the laws. What's wrong with trying to come up with some valid research on the issue?

If all states did this we would know once and for all what the true costs are. If they are as low as the pro illegals say they are maybe more people would be sympathetic to their cause. Why not deal with facts instead of speculation?
The pro-illegals are bent out of shape about this because they don't want it be known the true costs of illegal immigration. They know if the truth be known that the feds might actually take some drastic measures to end it and that doesn't fit the pro-illegal agenda. It is the same reason they balk at any local enforcement of our immigration laws. Curbing illegal immigration doesn't fit with their agenda.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Why is it giving the state a bad name? Maybe they want to give a go at making the Feds pay the bills since they won't enforce the laws. What's wrong with trying to come up with some valid research on the issue?

If all states did this we would know once and for all what the true costs are. If they are as low as the pro illegals say they are maybe more people would be sympathetic to their cause. Why not deal with facts instead of speculation?
Making the feds pay the bills is a cop out. That's getting other states to pay our bills when this state is wealthy enough to pay it's own bills.

And who says the feds won't enforce the laws? The Border Patrol has never done so many deportations in its history as they've done in the last 3 years.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Measures like this are fine and dandy until you are brought into an emergency room unconscious.
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