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Old 01-21-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Someone working for cash under the table now would magically be forced to pay taxes? That's rather odd insight.

 
Old 01-21-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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Does not work that way. Almost half are already off the books. You actually manage to tighten down on employers, which is harder than is often made out, and you simply move more to the dark side of the economy.
After reading your post, it is obvious that not only are you uninformed, but your delusional thinking that America has a need legalize shoddy, cheap labor is astounding.

I am a former tax fraud investigator for the IRS. Those who "pay taxes" not only do so fraudulently, they only do so in anticipation of a huge refund. If they were legalized in any way, the outcome would be the same. Just as they are in their home countries, economically, they are a net zero.

Believe me if a sincere crackdown were ordered and instituted, this country would be illegal alien free in less than 3 years.

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This is all bad for our society. What we are doing is establishing a class that works outside the system where wage and safety laws are ignored. It is not impossible to get such a class made permanent as in some European and many south American countries where actually paying your taxes is considered foolish.
As an over zealous supporter of illegal immigration, it is obvious that not only do you not know what is best for America's survival, you really don't care as long as those of you here illegally get a free pass and are allowed to remain in this country and milk it dry.

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The requirement is not amnesty. It is a sufficient regularization that virtually every one signs up. The right to work is probably the big carrot.
Not only is amnesty not a requirement, neither is it necessary for the US to regularize or sign up a bunch of illegal alien criminals to work in this country. Nor are we obligated in any way to provide jobs, social services, reduced tuition or anything else to those who are in this country illegally, including, but not limited to those here breeding and/or running across the border dropping anchors.

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The only significant benefits available now go to legal children. There are strong constitutional reason why that won't change.
This statement is nothing more than wishful thinking. In light of the fact that anchor babies nor those who breed them are legally "under the jurisidiction thereof" (the US) that deliberate misinterpretation of the 14th by the corporate masters and the OBL can be overturned in one election cycle. There are many in congress working diligently to pass legislation to ensure that the illegal alien party will end.

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So yes the deportation is not feasible. And the self deportation will work only if you can go throught the looking glass.
Deportation of millions of illegal aliens is not only feasible, it's totally possible, but not necessary. The vast majority of females are here to give birth as often as possible and collect a lifetime of taxpayer funded benefits. The correct intepretation of the 14th amendment would end the farse of birthright citizenship and save the taxpayers billions in welfare, WIC, Section 8 and medical bills. The mandatory institution of E-verify in every state would take care of the rest.

As more Americans become unemployed, homeless and hungry the wider awake and aware they become. You naively underestimate the intelligence, patience, anger and will of the American people.

The time bomb is ticking . . ..

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Old 01-21-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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God only knows why these people think amnesty is a positive thing. It was tried twice in Spain, it has been tried in France, Germany etc etc and all it has done is to encourage a new wave of illegal immigrants with the hopes that they too will become beneficiaries of amnesty.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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God only knows why these people think amnesty is a positive thing. It was tried twice in Spain, it has been tried in France, Germany etc etc and all it has done is to encourage a new wave of illegal immigrants with the hopes that they too will become beneficiaries of amnesty.
It's also been tried in the US.

Illegal immigration greatly increased after the 1986 amnesty.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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It's also been tried in the US.

Illegal immigration greatly increased after the 1986 amnesty.
Sure and those people who came after 1986 may just get that amnesty they were hoping for. Doesn't take much to see a good thing when it's handed to you on a silver platter. The whole scam is soooo obvious.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Sure and those people who came after 1986 may just get that amnesty they were hoping for. Doesn't take much to see a good thing when it's handed to you on a silver platter. The whole scam is soooo obvious.
Yep.

The 1986 amnesty involved about 3 million illegals.

If there was an amnesty now for about 12 million, then the 2030 amnesty would be for 30 million.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yep.

The 1986 amnesty involved about 3 million illegals.

If there was an amnesty now for about 12 million, then the 2030 amnesty would be for 30 million.
Just like 1986, when they "estimated" amnesty would involve approximately 1 million illegals, their current estimate of 12 million would likely, in actuality, involve closer to 20 or 30 million. After all, they've been using that same "estimate" for the past decade. I shudder to think of the number by 2030 if we amnesty those currently here.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Sure and those people who came after 1986 may just get that amnesty they were hoping for. Doesn't take much to see a good thing when it's handed to you on a silver platter. The whole scam is soooo obvious.
There should absolutely be no rewards for breaking the laws. No illegal should be given anything, no illegal should be given citizenship ahead of those who have respected our laws. No illegal has any respect for the laws of the USA and should not expect to hit some jackpot because of their willingness to thumb their noses at the laws.
 
Old 01-21-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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There are other ways to deal with them other than mass deportation. It is just that these ways would mean. accountability, paying fines, paying back taxes, having just ONE real ID and learning to speak english etc etc are things they just will not do...
 
Old 01-21-2012, 05:17 PM
 
Location: In bed with Madonna
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Rewarding criminal behavior is always the right answer.
Cant you read or what ??
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