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Old 01-26-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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C'mon PurpleRain, these kids are U.S. citizens. We owe their mothers tax-funded benefits for their delivery and endless support, even if we can't afford it. The fact that their mothers are here illegally draining us dry is totally irrelevant.
Oops sorry, I keep forgetting about that little issue of deliberate misinterpretation of the 14th. Those anchors are defacto citizens which means that both mother and defacto American citizen are within their rights to bleed the American taxpayers dry.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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SRS officials say the policy change, which is allowed under federal guidelines, is fair. The old formula gave households with illegal immigrants more benefits than some households with all U.S. citizens, said Angela de Rocha, SRS director of communications.

“Now, all households’ incomes are treated equally,” de Rocha said. “Prior to the policy change … U.S. citizens were being discriminated against.”
Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/21/3384400/kansas-slashes-food-aid-for-children.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)

Seems to me American's have been discriminated against long enough.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/21/3384400/kansas-slashes-food-aid-for-children.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)

Seems to me American's have been discriminated against long enough.
I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy,” said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. “I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands what’s happening to the children.”[LEFT]
Read more here: Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/21/3384400/kansas-slashes-food-aid-for-children.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy - broken link)
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The illegal parents can go HOME with their kids if life here isn't "fair".
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy,” said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. “I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands what’s happening to the children.”[LEFT]
Read more here: Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/21/3384400/kansas-slashes-food-aid-for-children.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy - broken link)[/LEFT]

The illegal parents can go HOME with their kids if life here isn't "fair".
Yeah why isn't this "Sister" concerned about American children that are suffering from the ramifications of these children being here illegally?

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Old 01-26-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Yeah why isn't this "Sister" concerned about American children that are suffering from the ramifications of these children being here illegally?
The children or the parents are here illegally?...
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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The children or the parents are here illegally?...
I misunderstood. It is the parent's here illegally that are being denied food stamps for their anchor babies. Some might argue that is wrong because these kids are U.S. citizens but they only became so because of the illegal act of their parents. It is a stepping stone in the right direction to stop the use of birthright citizenship as a way of accessing our tax coffers by illegal alien parents. Make the parents the qualifer of receiving government benefits.
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:59 AM
 
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I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy,” said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. “I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands what’s happening to the children.”[LEFT]
Read more here: Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants - KansasCity.com (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/21/3384400/kansas-slashes-food-aid-for-children.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy - broken link)
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The illegal parents can go HOME with their kids if life here isn't "fair".
Yes -- but many of these children were conceived for the sole purpose of using them to get a free pass around the immigration laws and of course the many welfare benefits those children bring the parents and other family members.

Without the welfare handouts, you can expect many of these parents to abandon the kids. They truly are anchor babies, conceived and born for that one purpose.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Food stamps are for citizens. If that citizen happens to be 2 years old and doesn't work then they don't qualify. It IS that simple.

How can the illegals complain that they need benefits to feed their hungry kids when they knowingly came here illegally. Illegals don't qualify for benefits or were they counting on their kids to qualify ?
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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Food stamps are for citizens. If that citizen happens to be 2 years old and doesn't work then they don't qualify. It IS that simple.

How can the illegals complain that they need benefits to feed their hungry kids when they knowingly came here illegally. Illegals don't qualify for benefits or were they counting on their kids to qualify ?
They were counting on that because they knew that giving birth on our soil would qualify these kids to these entitlements.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: California
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Really, people, just because one has a birth certificate saying they were born within the USA does not make them automatic citizens. A birth certificate has not the nationality or citizenship status of the child on it, nor the citizenship status of the parent. The birth certificate is but a form to begin an identification for the child as to who it is and to whom its bloodline follows, nothing more.

The State and Federal Governments use it as a form of identity. It is but one form that is required to obtain citizenship from DoS.

The Department of Agriculture (runs the SNAP program) never says that they are for citizens only, and allows non-citizens to obtain it to include (citizen) children of non-citizens (which is those here as LPR's who have had children here that would be considered citizens by birth due to WKA - it does not specify that children born to illegal aliens are indeed citizen children,; although that is how some do interpret it - SNAP definition is below).
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SNAP eligibility has never been extended to undocumented non-citizens......Although many non-citizens are now eligible for SNAP, SNAP participation has been historically low among eligible non-citizen households. In 2008, the participation rate for non-citizens was 51% and the rate for citizen children living with non-citizen adults was 55% as compared to the national participation rate of 67% among all eligible individuals1 and a national participation rate of 86% for all eligible children.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/governm...nce_063011.pdf
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There are many terms that describe non-citizens. We have listed some of those terms and their more formal, legally-based definitions below.1

1 The following terms are commonly more formally defined as:
Alien – any person not a citizen or national of the United States. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), §101.
Immigrant – every alien except an alien who is within one of the classes of nonimmigrant aliens set forth in the INA, §101(a)(15).
Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) – any person with the status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States as an immigrant in accordance with the immigration laws, such status not having changed. INA §101. LPRs are granted a permanent resident card, commonly called a ―green card,‖ as proof of having the status of LPR.
Qualified Alien – an individual who meets the specific definition of ―qualified alien as found at 7 CFR 273.4(a)(5)(i), which includes lawful permanent residents, asylees, refugees, parolees, individuals granted withholding of deportation or removal, conditional entrants, Cuban or Haitian entrants, battered aliens, and alien victims of a severe form of trafficking. See also PRWORA, 8 U.S.C. § 1641. The term qualified alien is not itself an immigration status, but includes a collection of immigration statuses. It is a term used for Federal public benefits purposes.
As you should be able to understand, undocumented alien, therefor refers to parolees, individuals granted withholding of deportation or removal, conditional entrants,battered aliens, and alien victims of a severe form of trafficking.
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