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Old 12-12-2007, 05:38 PM
 
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Oh Florida has a surplus, we can finally put them to good use!!!!!!!!!
I had a "gator burger" yesterday for lunch.... like chewy low grade chicken!
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Old 12-12-2007, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I had a "gator burger" yesterday for lunch.... like chewy low grade chicken!
Probably suited better for border guards!!!!!!!
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Ever seen SiCko? I'm freaking watching it right now! People are being denied treatment because they can't pay.
Michael Moore lied PL

The film has been debunked
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:15 PM
 
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IT AFFECTS ALL OF US, NOT JUST YOU. WE AS MEXICAN AMERICANS , YES WE DO LIE ABOUT OUR INFORMATION TO GET FREE MEDICAL ATTENTION. WHO WOULDNT? IF YOU WERE IN OTHER COUNTRY DYING , OR ILL AND WANT TO FEEL BETTER WOULDNT YOU DO THE SAME? WERE NOT JUST PART OF THE PROBLEM , GOVERNMENT AS WELL .ALL OF US, IF YOU SEE IN A NEGATIVE WAY THAT, WE MEXICANS DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MEDICAL ATTENTION THEN WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PEACE. WE STRUGGLE AS WELL AS EVERYONE. NO WONDER THIS COUNTRY IS HAS TONS! OF ISSUES, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS NEGATIVELY!
IT SUPRISES ME
The ones with morals are still in Mexico, they did not sneak here illegally and put our poor and now middle class Americans in poverty! Now, we have deplorable health care, our wages are down and housing rentals way up so we cannot afford our own housing. Get the heck back to Mexico so we can have the life we had with peace, no violence, good wages, good housing costs, good product prices...once again.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:39 PM
 
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Ok I understand. But why blame the illegals? Because they're not paying?
Why? Blame illegals because their presence here in great disregard has wrecked Americans finances and health care; poor and middle class Americans cannot get good health care. What if you once had great health care at good cost, and then illegals caused it to stop... because the system cannot afford both you and the millions of illegals, and now you have to wait 3 to 6 months to see a doctor and then wait 9 hours at appointment with most of it standing up (those on crutches/walkers simply go home), and then you are seen by a physician's assistant who gives you wrong medication for over a year and ruins your health or you are sent to specialist but wait 5 more months for that, or you catch TB at the clinic because illegals do not follow doctor orders on precautions, or you are sent to county hospital and see very sick people who are not being diagnosed and treated correctly due to fact it is a teaching hospital you are told, but you feel lucky just to walk out alive after the awful care there by the nurse practioners, or if you are luckier by the non specialist doctors. There is a police station right at this hospital, like a war zone. I bet what they do better at in this county hospital is trauma, police and bloody people all over the place from violence; gangs, etc. This is what is all going on in L.A. since early 90's that I know of. Then you are sent a big bill for services (living through awful care). This failed system does not give medication soon enough, does not have have same lab values as in few good hospitals left.

I guess I don't have to say this all is coming to your state soon enough, the more illegals/amnesty recipients...the more misery.

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:17 PM
 
Location: California
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Michael Moore lied PL

The film has been debunked
In what ways was he lying about our healthcare system? It me nearly 3 years to get my braces (got them on yesterday) because of my insurance company being complete cheap a-holes. And we still had to pay over $2k.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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It me nearly 3 years to get my braces (got them on yesterday) because of my insurance company being complete cheap a-holes. And we still had to pay over $2k.
Insurance does not mean one will not have out of pocket costs PL

It is called the real world - things cost money -

BTW: 2K is not bad for the braces
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:19 PM
 
Location: California
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Why? Blame illegals because their presence here in great disregard has wrecked Americans finances and health care; poor and middle class Americans cannot get good health care. What if you once had great health care at good cost, and then illegals caused it to stop... because the system cannot afford both you and the millions of illegals, and now you have to wait 3 to 6 months to see a doctor and then wait 9 hours at appointment with most of it standing up (those on crutches/walkers simply go home), and then you are seen by a physician's assistant who gives you wrong medication for over a year and ruins your health or you are sent to specialist but wait 5 more months for that, or you catch TB at the clinic because illegals do not follow doctor orders on precautions, or you are sent to county hospital and see very sick people who are not being diagnosed and treated correctly due to fact it is a teaching hospital you are told, but you feel lucky just to walk out alive after the awful care there by the nurse practioners, or if you are luckier by the non specialist doctors. There is a police station right at this hospital, like a war zone. I bet what they do better at in this county hospital is trauma, police and bloody people all over the place from violence; gangs, etc. This is what is all going on in L.A. since early 90's that I know of. Then you are sent a big bill for services (living through awful care). This failed system does not give medication soon enough, does not have have same lab values as in few good hospitals left.

I guess I don't have to say this all is coming to your state soon enough, the more illegals/amnesty recipients...the more misery.

They can't get healthcare because of illegal immigrants? That doesn't make any sense.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:22 PM
 
Location: California
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Insurance does not mean one will not have out of pocket costs PL

It is called the real world - things cost money -

BTW: 2K is not bad for the braces
Yea, only after my dad discovered some girls in the lobby paid only a fraction of what I did yet they have to have them on longer nearly twice as many years as I do. That doesn't make any sense to me because my dad has great insurance, the girl who has the braces and paid a fraction of what I did, her dads worked in a factory. I highly doubt a factory worker has better insurance than a construction worker.
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Yea, only after my dad discovered some girls in the lobby paid only a fraction of what I did yet they have to have them on longer nearly twice as many years as I do. That doesn't make any sense to me because my dad has great insurance, the girl who has the braces and paid a fraction of what I did, her dads worked in a factory. I highly doubt a factory worker has better insurance than a construction worker.
You never know though - all insurance polices - particularly dental insurance are not created the same and with the same coverages -

When you grow up and start paying your own way, you will find these things out -
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