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Old 02-02-2012, 02:20 AM
 
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Insightful article.


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The problems start with economics. Undocumented workers make up more than 5 percent of America's labor force and much more in agriculture, hospitality, landscaping and elsewhere. Their departure would be a blow to the economy — and no, American-born workers, generally better educated and geographically remote from the jobs immigrants do, would not fill their shoes.
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As for the idea of getting to "the back of the line," that assumes a line exists for low-skilled Mexicans lacking family connections in the United States. There is no such line that would realistically result in the issuance of a green card to an unskilled Mexican with no relatives in the United States. Even if a Mexican has, say, parents or siblings who are U.S. citizens, he would likely wait 15 to 20 years or more just to get an interview with a U.S. consular officer.
Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:55 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
Unacceptable.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:01 AM
 
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Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
Dream on. No they aren't here to stay! If they can't get a job here why would they stay? The only ones I can think of that might are those with anchor babies that can live off the goverment teet.

Who do you think did all those jobs before the influx of cheap, illegal labor? We have always had a large blue collared workforce in this country and that is the kind of jobs that these illegals are holding at a cut rate wage. Once the illegals are gone unemployed Americans would get those jobs back and be once again contributing to our economy and tax base. Our youth would take those other entry level jobs or even our seniors looking to supplement their income. As I said....Dream on.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Hey, if anything this bad economy is getting them more jobs.
Work under the table for cash wages and the employer gets to keep more of his money.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
That's funny, the "fantasy" has certainly become a "reality" each time a state or county even proposes an anti-illegal law. And, citizens have eagerly applied for those jobs. However, unlike illegals, citizens expect a decent wage and withholding taxes. That's the difference between LEGAL employment and the corruption and exploitation inherent in illegal immigration.

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The number of illegal immigrants plummeted in Virginia and Maryland communities that cracked down on immigration violations, with many moving into neighboring localities where enforcement of those laws was far less intense, according to a report released Monday.
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Frederick County in Maryland saw a 61 percent drop in the number of Hispanic noncitizens between 2007 and 2009 after the county implemented a new program in which local police enforce federal immigration laws in 2008, according to the report from the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington.
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Prince William County in Virginia saw a drop of 21 percent of Hispanic noncitizens after implementing the same program, while neighboring Loudoun County saw a drop of 13.5 percent, the report shows.
Report: Illegal immigrants decline in Va., Md. areas that crack down | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/virginia/2011/01/report-illegal-immigrants-decline-va-md-towns-crack-down - broken link)

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ALBERTVILLE, Ala. — The vanishing began Wednesday night, the most frightened families packing up their cars as soon as they heard the news.

The exodus of Hispanic immigrants began just hours after a federal judge in Birmingham upheld most provisions of the state’s far-reaching immigration enforcement law.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/us...pagewanted=all

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Though Georgia’s new crackdown on illegal immigration known as HB 87, does not take effect until July 1, illegal aliens have reportedly been leaving Georgia in droves since Gov. Nathan Deal signed the bill last month.
Illegal aliens fleeing Georgia due to new immigration law - National Immigration Reform | Examiner.com

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Arizona's tough new immigration enforcement law is fueling an exodus of Hispanics from the state seven weeks before it goes into effect, according to officials and residents in the state.
Hispanics flee Arizona ahead of immigration law - USATODAY.com

Now, imagine what would happen nationwide if the Feds would simply enforce our current laws. Don't tell me illegals won't leave this country. All evidence contradicts your "fantasy" theory.


BTW, did I miss the passage of a law granting legal status to illegal aliens? If so, please post. Otherwise, they have no legal right to remain in this country. Make no mistake, "We the People" will not continue to tolerate this nonsense.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Why should our immigration laws aim to be fair to unskilled Mexicans? Especially unskilled Mexicans who feel free to break them? If the illegals were all that economically valuable the Mexican government would be pleading with them to return. Who the hell cares what they want?

The only fantasy is the belief that we need even more low skilled law breakers from the world's 12th largest economy. Employers who are too greedy to pay Americans a decent wage should be mocked and fined. They should not have their desires enshrined into law. Make them legal and all you do is give them access to our welfare system. Why would any American want to do that?



Let the Mexicans improve their society instead of attempting to make life harder for the American middle class. Anything that can be done to make their lives harder should be done. We owe them nothing from breaking into our country.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
They can stay in the shadows and live as peasants for all I care. They can be deported at any moment ! They can look over their shoulder 24/7!

That too, is a fact!
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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That "liberal" rag?...

No telling which miscreant could get on their front page!...
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
Indeed.

Although New Mexico is an illegal alien butt kisser going by that state issuing drivers licenses to them.
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by zacatecana View Post
Insightful article.






Its simple. They are here to stay. It may not be what you want to hear but it is what it is.

Their View: The immigration fantasy of 'self-deportation' - Silver City Sun-News
Oh I wouldn't be so sure. Look how much they pretend to care about "la patria" and it didn't take much for them to pack up and leave it.
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