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Old 02-05-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv View Post
Some compassion? Are you kidding?

This is the illegal immigration forum. There is no compassion.

There are no gray areas allowed.
That's an unfair generalization. I suppose you missed this. . .

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Originally Posted by Benicar
While I certainly feel for this girl. .
And this. . .

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I would feel compassion for ANYONE under similar circumstances, particularly, someone her age.
Right. There is no compassion.

 
Old 02-05-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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This isn't black and white though:

1) This is a minor who was brought here by her parents
2) She's just lost her family under tragic circumstances.

Honestly, 9 times out of 10, I would be just as much on the "send 'em back" bandwagon as the rest of you, but this is an exceptional case.

Here's the problem with your attitude:

Each and every illegal alien in this country can come up with some sob story of why they shouldn't have to go back to their country of origin. Every. Single. One.

Where do we draw the line? Deportation....that's where
 
Old 02-05-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well, that's a better alternative to just mindlessly chucking her out, as some have suggested. The proper course of action would be to contact what would her closest relatives in Brazil and go from there. If she has no other family there or if there is any indication that she would be subject to abuse or any kind of persecution, adoption in the US or foster care would be the best bet.

This is an exceptional and tragic situation that does call for more compassion than just mindlessly deporting a minor who has already suffered enough. She is still a human being.
I don't believe anyone has suggested she should be "mindlessly" deported. Most have suggested she should be reunited with her extended family in Brazil. Why is that wrong or inhumane?
 
Old 02-05-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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I don't believe anyone has suggested she should be "mindlessly" deported. Most have suggested she should be reunited with her extended family in Brazil. Why is that wrong or inhumane?
They just featured this illegal alien sob story on CCN. On cue the aunt starts crying a river at the thought of her being deported back to a country that she doesn't know.

In fairness, CNN should have taken it a step further and interviewed one of the hundreds of American families who have lost loved ones to illegal alien drunk drivers and murderers. But then the tragedies that Americans suffer as a result of illegal aliens being here is not part of their agenda.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...She's 15 and now an orphan.
An adoption for immigration purposes has to be completed fully before she would turn 16 (it isn't able to be before she turns 18, because she has no younger sibling to adopt at the same time). Within the last couple years the international adoption process has become much more structured, the United States finally signing into an accord that has been established with many other countries for years. That could be more interesting in this case, where Brazil has to certify that she is able to be freely adopted.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 10:07 PM
 
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She has an Aunt and Uncle in Atlanta with whom she intends to live.

She has not been to Brazil since leaving as a three year old. Has no desire to go there.

She may well pick up a couple of million from the crash...the Highway Patrol screwed up.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Some Beach... Somewhere...
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It's not her fault that her parents were here illegally. The notion of just tossing a child out of the country after losing her family is sickening to me.
But it's her parents' fault that she was here illegally. That they died does not change the fact that her presence here remains a violation of our laws. Send her back to her family overseas. That is her true and proper home; the US is not her home. She is free to apply for proper immigration clearance once she reaches age 18, but until then she belongs with her family.

Tragedy does not alter the law. Nowhere in the statues does it say "... this is the law until something really, really sad happens."
 
Old 02-06-2012, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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She has an Aunt and Uncle in Atlanta with whom she intends to live.

She has not been to Brazil since leaving as a three year old. Has no desire to go there.

She may well pick up a couple of million from the crash...the Highway Patrol screwed up.

Guess what....Many Americans have no desire to have illegal aliens who have no right to be here in our country.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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"The family wanted to obtain legal status but had no laws to help them do so."
Let's see, the entire family entered this country on visas. Most likely they were tourist visas, and the parents had no intention of ever returning home. After all, that's how the game is played. So, there was a "law" which granted them permission to enter, but no laws to help them legalize their status? C'mon, their status changed because they chose not to comply with the terms of their visas. I'm so sick of hearing this lie.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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Let's see, the entire family entered this country on visas. Most likely they were tourist visas, and the parents had no intention of ever returning home. After all, that's how the game is played. So, there was a "law" which granted them permission to enter, but no laws to help them legalize their status? C'mon, their status changed because they chose not to comply with the terms of their visas. I'm so sick of hearing this lie.
If the family wanted to come here permanently then they should have applied within their own country to follow whatever steps it takes to do so rather than coming here on a visa and expecting to legalize within our borders. What is wrong with these people that they won't follow the legal steps in the first place? If it is too difficult or lengthy a process or they don't meet our annual quotas then that is the end of the story. It's our country, our rules. Stay home then.
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