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Old 02-07-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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So people don't want to curb legal immigration? That's not what I've been reading and hearing.
First off the topic is illegal aliens not immigrants and wanting legal immigration temporarily curbed until our economy improves does not make one anti-immigrant.

 
Old 02-07-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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It's not just illegal immigrants who are being scapegoated, it's many legal Hispanics born and raised here.

The hatred isn't reserved just for illegals.
Hatred? Why the need for such a strong word? The only legal Hispanics I have a problem with are those who think their illegal counterparts should be above our laws.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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Ron Paul is full of it. Latinos in general are not being used as scapegoats. The objection is to the illegal kind and in fact all illegals. Geez, a presidential candidate using spin and lies to pander. How low can he go?
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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Why do you keep using the term anti-"immigrant" when the correct one is anti-illegal alien? There is a huge difference, you know.
the correct term is anti-hispanic
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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First off the topic is illegal aliens not immigrants and wanting legal immigration temporarily curbed until our economy improves does not make one anti-immigrant.
it makes one anti-immigration, which sounds an awful lot like anti-immigrant
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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the correct term is anti-hispanic
No, it isn't. I don't know of many people that are anti-Hispanic but I know plenty who are anti-illegal immigration regardless of their ethnic makeup. As I said, the only anti-Hispanic sentiments I have are against legal Hispanics who think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws and when violated they should be rewarded with amnesty/legalization or even our citizenship.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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it makes one anti-immigration, which sounds an awful lot like anti-immigrant
I see, so if one opposes illegal immigration and wants legal immigration to be curbed just until our economy improves that makes them anti-immigrant even though they would have no problem with legal immigration otherwise?
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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I see, so if one opposes illegal immigration and wants legal immigration to be curbed just until our economy improves that makes them anti-immigrant even though they would have no problem with legal immigration otherwise? :smack:
That's a contradiction. Someone wants legal immigration to be curbed, yet they have no problems with legal immigration?

Indeed

I'm even more convinced that Ron Paul was correct
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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It is normal for "newcomers" to be shunned? I would hardly call illegal aliens "newcomers". We already have millions of legal/citizen Latinos in this country. They are hardly newcomers.
Who said anything about newcomers except you?
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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That's a contradiction. Someone wants legal immigration to be curbed, yet they have no problems with legal immigration?

Indeed

I'm even more convinced that Ron Paul was correct
So if I pour myself a glass of milk and unless I allow the milk to overfill so it spills out on the table that makes me anti-milk? I know you understand the analogy and even the argument to curb legal immigration ONLY until our economy improves without being called anti-immigrant but apparently your agenda is getting in the way of common sense and logic.

I never mentioned Latinos specifically like he did either so no, Ron Paul is wrong. This isn't an anti-Latino issue it is about their illegal counterparts and ALL illegals.

So you and Paul both can stick your race cards back in your wallets.
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