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Old 02-07-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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"Rep. Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said that meant elevating the concerns of illegal immigrants".

"It's outrageous that the Obama administration has appointed a taxpayer-funded activist for illegal and criminal immigrants who are detained or ordered deported. The administration all too often acts more like a lobbying firm for illegal immigrants than as an advocate for the American people," Mr. Smith, Texas Republican, said".

Administration names official advocate for illegal immigrants - Washington Times
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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"Rep. Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said that meant elevating the concerns of illegal immigrants".

"It's outrageous that the Obama administration has appointed a taxpayer-funded activist for illegal and criminal immigrants who are detained or ordered deported. The administration all too often acts more like a lobbying firm for illegal immigrants than as an advocate for the American people," Mr. Smith, Texas Republican, said".

Administration names official advocate for illegal immigrants - Washington Times

I don't care what anyone feels. This administration seems to care more for the werlfare of the law breakers, ILLEGALS, then the welfare of those born here and citizens. Outrageous.
Paint any picture u want, Obama has already painted the picture for all to see his picture!
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:10 AM
 
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Votes, votes, votes and more votes. Desperation is when you must turn to the foreign citizens illegally here happily breaking the laws of this country including voting in our national elections for the votes you need to win.

Of course also the greedy corporations with their lust for unlimited ultra cheap labor make some very big campaign contributions.

Follow the money.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:45 AM
 
Location: OK
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Whether these immigrants are here illegally or not, the fact remains that they are human beings, came here out of desperation and, in many cases, have children who were born here.

For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Whether these immigrants are here illegally or not, the fact remains that they are human beings, came here out of desperation and, in many cases, have children who were born here.
Bull. Helping those who came here illegally with no apparent effort to do so legally is encouraging criminal behavior. If they were not here illegally, their children would not be born here. Problem solved.

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For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
Once again, bull. No other nation in the world welcomes illegals. Are we the only "civilized" nation, or just the biggest sucker with the most citizens who hate their way of life?

Perhaps those who think like you do should try illegally entering and living in one of the Central American nations and report back on how that goes.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Whether these immigrants are here illegally or not, the fact remains that they are human beings, came here out of desperation and, in many cases, have children who were born here.

For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
I'm almost under the impression that you have no clue as to the impact illegals have on the US.

Legal is legal, illegal is not legal. They can be just as much of a human being in their own country. The difference is that they can't get government handouts in their country, and they shouldn't get them in this country.

Do you realize the cost to the taxpayer because of illegal immigrants? This was in 2009.

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$11 billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Illegal households only pay about one-third the amount of federal taxes that non-illegal households pay.
Illegal households create a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion a year. If given amnesty, this number could grow to more than $29 billion.
$1.9 billion dollars a year is spent on food-assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
$1.6 billion is spent on the federal prison and court system for illegal aliens.
$2.5 billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
About 21 percent of the population of U.S. prisons is classified as “noncitizens” from Mexico, Colombia, Cuba and the Dominican Republic. About 5 percent is listed as “unknown.”
Then you have Americans who have lost their business because they couldn't compete with the guy down the road who hired illegals so that he didn't have to pay into the government nor did he have to provide benefits.

You have citizens who have lost loved ones or have been crippled because of an illegal being behind the wheel drunk. If they weren't in the country, those lives would have been spared from death or being crippled.

Citizens have been killed by illlegals because of the drug war that exists in the US.

Forged documents. Stolen SS numbers. They manipulate to the point that they vote and sit on juries and make judgments on other peoples lives for committing a crime, while all along they do so while also committing a crime. Juries are supposed to consist of people who are your peers (a person of the same legal status). An illegal is NOT my peer.

Babies? Why do you think they procreate as much as they do? It has nothing to do with being good Christians and everything to do with the fact that baby number one anchors them to the US and every baby means more government money.

Illegals are of the opinion that the US "owes" them. What exactly have they contributed to the US that the US "owes" them anything.

When your government accommodates and protects illegals before it's citizens, tell me, how does it feel to take a backseat to an illegal?

I think when I file my tax return this year I'm going to claim one illegal family of 5 as dependents seeing as how my tax money is supporting them.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Whether these immigrants are here illegally or not, the fact remains that they are human beings, came here out of desperation and, in many cases, have children who were born here.

For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
The same could be said of any citizen criminal. Aren't they also "human beings?" I am sure many steal or deal drugs out of desperation. But, we don't ignore their crimes, do we? And, I would venture to say, many also have children who were born in this country. Again, do we ignore their lawlessness, and refuse to arrest and prosecute, for the sake of their U.S. citizen children? Of course not! So, please explain why we should treat foreign interlopers differently.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Arjay51, softblueyze, and Benicar, you 3 have mis-read what Annemieke Roell actually says.
For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
Annemieke Roell is advocating for the removal of these people and their children back to where they came from also indicating that the children are not born US citizens, thus we are a civilized nation for not separating them from one another.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Arjay51, softblueyze, and Benicar, you 3 have mis-read what Annemieke Roell actually says.
For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
Annemieke Roell is advocating for the removal of these people and their children back to where they came from also indicating that the children are not born US citizens, thus we are a civilized nation for not separating them from one another.
You're right. I must admit, I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Thanks!

Sorry, Annemieke Roell.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Arjay51, softblueyze, and Benicar, you 3 have mis-read what Annemieke Roell actually says.
For us as a nation to help these people go back where they came from shows we are civilized.
Annemieke Roell is advocating for the removal of these people and their children back to where they came from also indicating that the children are not born US citizens, thus we are a civilized nation for not separating them from one another.
This is going to be nothing more than a sounding board for illegals to air their grievances and convince those on the other side of the table that they should be allowed to stay in the US. I don't see why illegals should have a committe to "argue" their case. Illegals have been shown nothing BUT civility, tolerance, financial support and protection by the government at the taxpayers expense.

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listening to immigrants' concerns about its law enforcement policies

Isn't it the law that if you are illegal in the US you are committing a crime? Now they want to ask what the enforcement policies are regarding the crime they have committed? They don't know? The policy is deportation and if it means that their children return with them so be it.
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