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Old 02-08-2012, 10:50 PM
 
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LOL Intended cheesy title. But, yes, I decided to do some reading online about E-Verify and thought it would be a good idea to create a thread that could compile all quickly-accessed info about E-Verify. As we all know, there are people who say that E-Verify could put a huge dent in illegal immigration and there are those who say it is inaccurate therefore unfair. Well, learning more about E-Verify can give us all an understanding of its place as an important option for greatly reducing illegal immigration.

In this thread, you will find links and texts about E-Verify. It could be documents used for E-Verify (that are publicly available) to give us a better look into how it is implemented, news about E-Verify, or updates.

For this first post, I'd like to link you all to the official internet home of E-Verify. There you can get basic understandings of E-Verify and see how easily available it is to access and then implement.

Department of Homeland Security - U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement - E-Verify : USCIS - E-Verify

So, the first basic thing to know is that E-Verify is ran by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency in collaboration with the Social Security Administration (SSA). Of course, many already knew this, but it is helpful to put it all into perspective when thinking about E-Verify, policy enforcements and illegal immigration.

As a special introductory feature for this thread, here is a link containing a video of what it is like when a SSA TNC (Social Security Administration Tentative Non-Confirmation) occurs as an employers runs a check on a possible employee and what happens after that TNC. Basically, it gives you an idea of what will happen when the information someone provides doesn't match up in E-Verify. As many of you know, an employee or potential employee is given information of who to contact to dispute the case, but they are not necessarily terminated from their job position.

USCIS - Video: How to Respond to a TNC

One last link for this first post: USCIS - Statement for the Record: E-Verify

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USCIS estimates one percent of all queried employees choose to contest an initial, tentative result from E-Verify showing that their work authorization could not be verified, and only half of those who contest that result are ultimately found to be authorized.
When an employee or potential employee is told that their information doesn't match-up in E-Verify, only 1% of those people choose to contest it in order to prove that they are legally able to work. Only 50% of that 1% end up being legally able to work. Very interesting.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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Great thread. Thanks for posting it. The naysayers all like to downplay the effectiveness of e-verify and usually it is because they know it works but they have an agenda to keep illegal aliens employed here. I only wish that e-verify would include checking employees that are already hired.

I will try to find some more articles about e-verify and post them here.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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Great thread. Thanks for posting it. The naysayers all like to downplay the effectiveness of e-verify and usually it is because they know it works but they have an agenda to keep illegal aliens employed here. I only wish that e-verify would include checking employees that are already hired.

I will try to find some more articles about e-verify and post them here.
Hey, no problem.

From what I know, there are certain situations when the SSA or the IRS will contact an employer to let them know that something doesn't match up with a person's SSN and name. That is why sometimes when someone has been working somewhere for a long time, all of a sudden they asked to come into the management office for a little discussion.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It has been proven that E-Verify, while not 100% accurate, is one of the most effective tools available to curb illegal employment. Unfortunately, it won't necessarily catch illegals using a stolen SSN if they also steal the person's name. But, if an illegal uses their name while using a fake or stolen SSN, they should be easily detected. Of course, La Raza vehemently opposes E-Verify, because they claim it unfairly discriminates against Latino "immigrants." In other words, E-Verify will catch millions of Latino illegal aliens. And, we certainly can't have that, can we?

However, with Obama's recent appointment of Cecilia Munoz, the former La Raza V.P. and lobbyist to head Domestic Policies and Immigration Initiatives, I doubt E-Verify will ever become mandatory. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse.

http://www.nclr.org/images/uploads/p...sfactsheet.pdf
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I had federal contracts and was required to use E-verify. It worked.

I'd expand it to include fingerprints and retina scans. If they can strip search grandma at the airport, randomly set up roadblocks, and monitor my email and phone calls, they can darn well stop the hire of illegals.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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E-Verify is very accurate. Where mistakes have been made it's usually women who've gotten married, and failed to change their surname with SS. Sometimes it's a clerical error, like a transposed number, or mispelling.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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E-Verify is very accurate. Where mistakes have been made it's usually women who've gotten married, and failed to change their surname with SS. Sometimes it's a clerical error, like a transposed number, or mispelling.
I'm gonna say that most illegal aliens are men which makes E-verify a bit easier to trust.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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We had to bring in docs to verify by a certain date. On that date 12 people quit showing up for work.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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It has been proven that E-Verify, while not 100% accurate, is one of the most effective tools available to curb illegal employment. Unfortunately, it won't necessarily catch illegals using a stolen SSN if they also steal the person's name. But, if an illegal uses their name while using a fake or stolen SSN, they should be easily detected. Of course, La Raza vehemently opposes E-Verify, because they claim it unfairly discriminates against Latino "immigrants." In other words, E-Verify will catch millions of Latino illegal aliens. And, we certainly can't have that, can we?

However, with Obama's recent appointment of Cecilia Munoz, the former La Raza V.P. and lobbyist to head Domestic Policies and Immigration Initiatives, I doubt E-Verify will ever become mandatory. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse.

http://www.nclr.org/images/uploads/p...sfactsheet.pdf
I am thinking as you are. I too was wondering about the apointment of Cecilia Munoz, and is this going to effect the E-Verify initative.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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I am thinking as you are. I too was wondering about the apointment of Cecilia Munoz, and is this going to effect the E-Verify initative.
Gee, do ya think?
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