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Old 02-11-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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On the whole the majority of children of illegals are US citizens. The number of children that are illegal is very small by comparison.

change the 14th Amendment so it does not let children born in the USA to criminal aliens to be automatic citizens.
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Old 02-11-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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Pistol-whipped?...

Harsher punishment than the molester himself?...

What a skewed sense of justice...
Molesting a child scars it for life. Many victims are unable to happy relationships with others so, beating the hell out of a pedophile is NO worse. I'm NOT talking about a 18 yo person having sex with a 15 yo if both say yes; I'm talking about a "father" or mother, etc. raping his son or daughter or even just touching the kid in an crude sexual way.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: California
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The majority of US born citizens don't have a passport.



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And they are assumed to be US Citizens if they don't have one.
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: California
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change the 14th Amendment so it does not let children born in the USA to criminal aliens to be automatic citizens.
Congress has control over naturalization, these children are born to illegal aliens, they would fall under the naturalization laws as created by Congress if they so choose to deny them by implementation of law. As it stands right now, only the DoS in the FAM defines them as us born citizens, however that will change once we have a new DoS Secretary and party in power. The DoS recognition of WKA is factually incorrect, WKA does not grant BRC to all born on US soil.

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Old 02-11-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Pistol-whipped?...

Harsher punishment than the molester himself?...

What a skewed sense of justice...
Oh, please. When did I mention a specific punishment for this scumbag? Oh, that's right, I didn't. I can't post the punishment I believe he should receive. And, it is far, far worse than a pistol whipping.

I suppose you believe these "model" parents are guiltless.
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:04 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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No way i condone scum like this in any way, and these things by these scumbags, should not be happening to any child, hope he gets his undo punishment.

However these parents also have a responsibility to raise their children, in the best loving enviroment that they can, and all too often, with these illegals, this is definitely not the case.

Why can't these parents understand the consequences, of their decision to break the law.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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......just touching the kid in an crude sexual way.
That "touch" stays with you for a lifetime. It can change the path you take in life, can make you incapable of having a healthy relationship, takes away your self-worth and lays dormant in the back of you mind until you get older and learn more about abuse then it slowly surfaces and it explains so much about who you became because of it. You also learn that you were a victim and why there was a level of anger that you harbored all your life and if one can reconcile themself with what happened, then you can come to terms with how you became the person you are, stop being angry set yourself free to become the person you should have been and find a better life. But knowing what and who changed your life will never leave you. I know this to be true.

Parents who ignore child abuse and think that their children will "forget" because they are young have no idea that you never forget - it's always there ready to surface one day. And these children will remember that their parent(s) allowed it to happen and there is no reason in the world a parent can give to a child to justify why they let it happen.
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That "touch" stays with you for a lifetime. It can change the path you take in life, can make you incapable of having a healthy relationship, takes away your self-worth and lays dormant in the back of you mind until you get older and learn more about abuse then it slowly surfaces and it explains so much about who you became because of it. You also learn that you were a victim and why there was a level of anger that you harbored all your life and if one can reconcile themself with what happened, then you can come to terms with how you became the person you are, stop being angry set yourself free to become the person you should have been and find a better life. But knowing what and who changed your life will never leave you. I know this to be true.

Parents who ignore child abuse and think that their children will "forget" because they are young have no idea that you never forget - it's always there ready to surface one day. And these children will remember that their parent(s) allowed it to happen and there is no reason in the world a parent can give to a child to justify why they let it happen.
Thank you for so eloquently speaking on behalf of victims. Child molestation is one of the most devastating of all childhood traumas. As you stated, it leaves lifelong scars. I believe there's a special place in hell reserved for all who defile innocent, defenseless children. Yet, some are so compelled by their need to defend illegals, they are willing to excuse the parents for their failure to protect their children from these pigs. Obviously, some are so incapable of condemning illegals, they can't even force themselves to do it when children are harmed. I can only shake my head in total disbelief.
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