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At first this looked like a travesty, but after thoroughly reading the articles it seemed these guys failed at the chance of a lifetime.
It turns out to be another pro-illegal sob story. Instead of being stand up citizens some of these guys dealt drugs and smuggled in more illegals.
Instead of choosing to be law abiding citizens they chose to be criminals and lost the opportunity to become citizens like other Illegal aliens that served and took that opportunity and became citizens.
These guys have only themselves to blame and deserve no sympathy they did this to themselves.
I find it funny how they believe they are US Nationals due to SOFA agreements for having served overseas.
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"We embody, we are the definition of a U.S. national," he said. "We hold a permanent allegiance to the United States."
The military enlistment oath doesn't portray a "permanent allegiance" to anything only that the member do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." These deported veterans fail in all circumstance to understanding their situations or their actual oaths or what they mean.
These guys have only themselves to blame and deserve no sympathy they did this to themselves. 100% Agreed!
I sat here reading that article shaking my head. Did they really think that because they wore the uniform they automatically became a US citizen? He served in the military for one purpose: to get on the fast track to become a citizen, which meant one had to still file for citizenship and go through the process. I'm sure that was explained to him. Maybe he didn't file because he received a dishonorable discharge? When discharged from the military you don't know if it was honorable or dishonorable? What would his discharge papers say: to be determined???
Since when does wearing the uniform entitle one to commit crimes after leaving the service?
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Jerry Lopez, who lives in Rosarito, says he was ordered deported in 2004 after a series of crimes — including theft and smuggling people into the country illegally.
Note: series of crimes, not two, but mulitiple.
He believes citizenship should be automatic because he put his life on the line serving in the military. Errrrr, isn't that what American citizens did and still do without any "reward"?
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We embody, we are the definition of a U.S. national,"
He should shut up. What he is, is a criminal, which is not the definition of a U.S. national.
What's with these people? Military service does not mean someone is entitled to commit all kinds of crimes the rest of their lives. 6 years in the military and it's okay to become a drug dealer? Or beat your wife? Many of these people only joined the military to get to the financial benefits in the first place.
"If an American former Marine sells marijuana, he goes to jail. If a Mexican former U.S. Marine sells marijuana, he goes to jail and gets deported," Shagin said. "That's what's wrong.
And freedom back in his own country is certainly not like prison here. It's actually unfair -- the American is given prison time, the non-American is given freedom, no prison time. What should happen is that the non-citizen is also sent to prison and THEN deported.
"If an American former Marine sells marijuana, he goes to jail. If a Mexican former U.S. Marine sells marijuana, he goes to jail and gets deported," Shagin said. "That's what's wrong.
And freedom back in his own country is certainly not like prison here. It's actually unfair -- the American is given prison time, the non-American is given freedom, no prison time. What should happen is that the non-citizen is also sent to prison and THEN deported.
The diffence is that an American Marine cannot be deported. What part of that isn't this person getting? There are conditions that an immigrant has to follow when they come here legally. If they don't meet those conditions they could and should be deported regardless of their military service. As was pointed out not everyone joins the military out of some undying love for this country. Many join for monetary reasons and that includes some citizens who join for the same reason.
I appreciate that they served the US in uniform, but even after becoming a citizen, if they live criminal lifestyle, they CAN be deported. We have enough natural-born criminals, already. I do not think we should be letting criminals stay just because "they wore the uniform".
Don't you just love the headlines: U.S. Veterans Deported After They Served. . . . Deported U.S. Army Veteran Leads the Banished
One would think they honorably served this country, and then were arbitrarily discarded like garbage, and unfairly deported. They deserve to be deported. We don't need more criminals.
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Now, the 34-year-old lives in a cluttered shoebox of an apartment in Rosarito, Baja California.
Too freakin bad. At least he has a roof over his head. Countless U.S. citizen veterans who served honorably, and haven't committed crimes after serving, are now living homeless on crates and cardboard boxes, or under highway overpasses.
Yes a more honest headline would have been "Foreigner deported after committing a number of crimes".
I'm sure these foreign criminals had every chance to apply for citizenship but chose not to do so, most likely out of their great allegience to their homelands.
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Note: series of crimes, not two, but mulitiple. 
