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Old 02-18-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by malamute View Post
No -- everyone doesn't do it.

The black people here had it far worse than any Mexican has it in Mexico but you didn't see the black civil rights leaders suggesting they break the laws of other countries and leave the USA.

Instead they fought and worked to improve their lives here in their own country. No law breaking of other nations.


Mexicans love to whine on and on about how horrendous their country is -- when they aren't chanting "viva mexico" but they are doing absolutely nothing to improve their own country. They're quick to protest and have big marches here in the USA demanding this and that right they feel they deserve for breaking the laws here but do they ever consider marching for their rights back home? Doing something for their people? No, it's just much too easy to come here and start demanding everything.
Absolutely! But, that took courage, something obviously lacking in illegals.

 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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And those squalid barrios to them seem like living like kings and queens compared with the squalid barrios they left behind. Back home the squalid barrios didn't have a giant welfare office where they could line up and be given hundreds of dollars worth of free food or food stamps, they didn't get completely free health care, as their health care system is nationalized and they must pay a small co-pay based on a sliding scale with their income. No WIC offices, no Section 8 government handouts.

It's very very easy to come here illegally, there is no expectation that the immigration laws will be enforced, their own government encourages them to come illegally to the USA, they are called heroes if they do so. There is almost no downside at all and at the same time the rewards are very very great.

Come here illegally and start demanding your rights, and sure enough, you will have even the presidents insisting you be moved to the front of the line, ahead of all those law abiding types that tried to come the legal way.
Yep, especially now that Obama is giving a de facto amnesty to those illegals that haven't been convicted of a felony. Just more incentive for them to come here.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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yes i would sneak in 100 times if i had. but i would not whine about. i would be thankful that i was released and not kept in jail for months. so that i could sneak back in! any human would do it
Stop speaking for every human. No, I don't think most humans would sneak into another country illegally unless they were in fear for their lives. Most coming here illegally today are here for economic gain at the expense of the American taxpayer but you're ok with that?
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
This was the question posed under this thread and you did not answer it! The question was about being a citizen of another country and coming here illegally to work. You dodged it completely by giving the answer above that wasn't even relevant to the question.

"If you were from ANOTHER country, would
You Sneak Into The U.S.A. Illegally to work
and feed yourself, and your family".
But I am not from "ANOTHER country"...

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Originally Posted by Benicar View Post
Are you suggesting you were a member of our Special Forces? Otherwise, you would indeed enter a country with a valid visa. Even CIA operatives have legal documentation to enter countries, as well as other agencies involved in covert operations. I personally know someone who issues their necessary documents. So, please don't start lying.
An eyeroll with accusations that I am lying? It is exactly as I have stated it. In one incident I knew it was against the express approval of the U.S. Department of State (they would probably agree with it now, in light of current events), but my Commanding Officer conducted a small meeting to dismiss that hindrance to the completion of our mission (there were no opposing opinions brought up among us), and we went in.

And that was a country we weren't even formally at war with...

No, there isn't a "valid visa" for the occasion, and if captured while illegally within a country, there could have been an end result of imprisonment or death...

It is a little bit more edgy to be illegally present in a country than what you have said...
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by bumpus7 View Post
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If you were from another country, would
You Sneak Into The U.S.A. Illegally to work
and feed yourself, and your family.

Or would you stay where you are and
do with out food and shelter etc.

Be Honest ! ! !
.
Of course, it's a no-brainer question. If you're desperate enough to survive, you will do just about anything.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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If you're willing to face the music WHEN caught, don't complain about being deported.

MOST illegal aliens in the US AREN'T from countries where people are actually starving.
There are people starving in every nation on earth, including in the US. Just because we don't tend to notice does not mean they don't exist.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Hell no. My ancestors came to this Country legally, it was hell and high water, to get here, the backlash they received when coming here. And then getting their papers. It took time, but to them it was worth it. And what disgrace my ancestors, hell no.

I still believe in doing right, not what is wrong and breaking the law to do it.

And how many parents and children because of illegals, are separated, and then they do face the music. The impact on their children, is not fair to them at all.

Then they demand certain rights, don't think so and it is not right.
You didn't answer honestly, just like most others didn't. Stepping up on the moral soapbox is a position you can have when you aren't desperate, and the question was clearly phrased in which you would be.

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Old 02-18-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by Eleanora1 View Post
Oh for god sakes go educate yourself about this topic. More than half of all illegals are Mexican. And not only are many Mexicans are not starving they're all actually obese.



Mexico's other enemy: Obesity rates triple in last 3 decades - CNN

They come here for one reason and one reason only: they want more money. Why should we let them violate our immigration laws? Mexico would be a far better nation if more Mexicans would improve Mexico and make demands on Mexican officials instead of demanding the right to invade America and make demands on our citizens.
Mexico would be far better if Americans stopped consuming drugs. Or stopped making asinine assumptions about a country and people they clearly have no real-world experience with.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Illegals aren't coming here because they're starving.

But the first thing someone starving should do is not start having babies and have one right after another.

Cranking out babies and then insisting they're starving so you must be allowed to break whatever law is stupid.
So someone can't be starving or homeless without a family? Why do you assume that the only reason they have these issues is because they were too irresponsible to stop having children? Talk about ignorant.
 
Old 02-18-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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My answer if absolutely not and for all the reasons already stated plus one. I would not create hardship on this country's citizens by taking their jobs and tax dollars that I had no right to. Americans have families to feed also.
So it's suicide for you then. How gracious and noble.
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