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Old 02-18-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Indeed it is not. But, pro-illegals realize they lack both a legal and moral defense. So, their only option is the Race Card.

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. . . . illegal immigration has wrongly been couched in terms of a xenophobic and insensitive exploiter preying on a more noble and defenseless guest. In truth, the United States is the most generous host in the world, and never more so than during the present age.

No other country in the world is more liberal in its legal immigration policies or has been more caring toward new arrivals. To suggest otherwise is dishonest and shows an ignorance of how most countries, who now export their citizens to the U.S., treat any who would do the same to them.

We can argue about the history or the future of illegal immigration. But please spare us the psychodramatic appeals to a higher morality.
HANSON: It's not racist to demand action on illegal immigration - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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They play the race because it is the only one they have. They can't argue that illegals are a net benefit to America because they aren't or Mexico would be demanding they return. They can't argue that illegals help our poor people because they compete with them for jobs and push down their wages. They can't argue that illegals help the middle class because they push up taxes on the middle class. They can't even argue that illegals add to ethnic diversity in this country because most illegals are hispanic. They can't argue that illegals have no way of coming legally because Americans literally let in thousands of people from Mexico legally each year.

So they make the race based argument. They believe it will shut down debate immediately.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:50 AM
 
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The true racists are those who think that the USA should be transformed into a hispanic nation because all the hispanic nations are too unliveable for their people.

Anyone who prefers to speak some other language than English and live in non-American cultures has the choice to leave the USA and relocate to one of those other countries.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Indeed it is not. But, pro-illegals realize they lack both a legal and moral defense. So, their only option is the Race Card.



HANSON: It's not racist to demand action on illegal immigration - Sacramento Politics - California Politics | Sacramento Bee
They better be careful what they wish for. The race card goes both ways: play with fire and get burnt. But DON'T whine, la raza, when you get burnt.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...They can't argue that illegals have no way of coming legally because Americans literally let in thousands of people from Mexico legally each year...
With the vast majority of those because of their immediate relationship to a U.S. citizen...

But we've seen on this very forum complaints specifically about legal immigration from Mexico, and even claims that Mexicans immigrating legally are still violating immigration law. Fear mongering that low-income Mexicans are able to legally immigrate without sponsorship. And complete fabrications of stories and false facts against Mexicans without an aspect to illegal immigration.

I wonder why it comes up so much here, without any external prompting at all...
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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With the vast majority of those because of their immediate relationship to a U.S. citizen...

But we've seen on this very forum complaints specifically about legal immigration from Mexico, and even claims that Mexicans immigrating legally are still violating immigration law. Fear mongering that low-income Mexicans are able to legally immigrate without sponsorship. And complete fabrications of stories and false facts against Mexicans without an aspect to illegal immigration.

I wonder why it comes up so much here, without any external prompting at all...
You bring up legal immigration, from Mexicans, in illegal immigration more than any other poster. Why?
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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I use to think it was racist until I heard about some of the illegals. Some of them refuse to speak English in school and talk down on American culture.

Why would you move to a country and refuse their culture? It doesn't make sense.

But, that's only some of them.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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I use to think it was racist until I heard about some of the illegals. Some of them refuse to speak English in school and talk down on American culture.

Why would you move to a country and refuse their culture? It doesn't make sense.

But, that's only some of them.
In the old days when my family came here from Ireland: kids like you described would get a beat down in school for trashing the US and most of them came here legal.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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They play the race because it is the only one they have. They can't argue that illegals are a net benefit to America because they aren't or Mexico would be demanding they return. They can't argue that illegals help our poor people because they compete with them for jobs and push down their wages. They can't argue that illegals help the middle class because they push up taxes on the middle class. They can't even argue that illegals add to ethnic diversity in this country because most illegals are hispanic. They can't argue that illegals have no way of coming legally because Americans literally let in thousands of people from Mexico legally each year.

So they make the race based argument. They believe it will shut down debate immediately.
I find it pathetically disgusting that illegals (primarily Mexican illegals) use the history of slavery and the civil rights movement as their platform to blackmail, deceive and receive all things that should only be reserved for citizens. The fact that they have no right to be in this country, have made no positive contributions to the prosperity of this country makes their demands and sense of entitlement even more nauseating.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I find it pathetically disgusting that illegals (primarily Mexican illegals) use the history of slavery and the civil rights movement as their platform to blackmail, deceive and receive all things that should only be reserved for citizens...
Jury duty, voting, and political office?...

Those are the primary rights reserved to U.S. citizens...
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