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Old 02-21-2012, 03:31 AM
 
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I firmly believe only a citizen uprising would change the status quo.
I totally agree with this statement. Government knows deep the resentment harbored by citizens, but they aren't hearing that resentment.

If illegals can exercise a freedom that they are not entitled to, which is to congregate and protest and make demands, which they are not entitled to, on government, then the citizens who are anti-illegals need to uprise and make their voices heard. It just seems that Americans aren't actively taking the situation into their own hands. How many protests have there been with hundreds of Americans denouncing illegal immigration and wanting reform? If the illegals can organize protests with the help of pro-illegal organizations, can't an organization such as ALIPAC do the same? There are by far more citizens opposed to illegal immigration that illegals.

Maybe American citizens need to create their own civil rights movement? The civil rights movement prior to and during Martin Luther King, were comprised of Americans who were not given their fair and deserved rights, was effective. Government could not ignore the rights that Americans were being denied and gave those Americans their rights. As long as government hears the voices of illegals without demonstrations and vocal opposition, government is being convinced that illegals are entitled to the same rights as citizens. If illegals continue to conduct their own "civil rights movements" they will succeed as long as the majority opposed remain silent.

Changes should start at the top - with our President and administration. But people need to educate themselves more about the person they vote for when it comes to congressmen and senators, what and where those people who are running for election stand on the issue of illegal immigration, because those politicans do have an impact in matteres such as illegal immigration. These people are the future of America who will represent the citizen where government issues are discussed/debated with those in power to make change.

The justification that many use "we need immigrants" is just BS. At one time that statement could not have been more true. That was a time when American was growing and expanding. The only thing growing in America is the population. If there is a need for immigrants it would be farm workers. There are many Americans who can waitress or waiter, who are electricians, carpenters, in the construction business, mechanics, etc. who would gladly take those jobs. If illegals were made to leave the US employers would have no choice but to hire Americans who would in turn put their earnings back into the US economy rather than sending it out of the country.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:47 AM
 
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Also keep in mind that the illegals left their own homelands without blinking an eye. Why? Not because they love or respect this country, or want to speak the language of this country or adapt to our ways.

They come because it's easy, they love the money and government handouts, they love all that is free -- the health care, the food, the housing, the school meals. If that ends for them, then there is nothing keeping them here any more than there was anything keeping them in their own beloved homeland. If the economy gets bad here where they are affected by it, they will hightail out.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I totally agree with this statement. Government knows deep the resentment harbored by citizens, but they aren't hearing that resentment.

If illegals can exercise a freedom that they are not entitled to, which is to congregate and protest and make demands, which they are not entitled to, on government, then the citizens who are anti-illegals need to uprise and make their voices heard. It just seems that Americans aren't actively taking the situation into their own hands. How many protests have there been with hundreds of Americans denouncing illegal immigration and wanting reform? If the illegals can organize protests with the help of pro-illegal organizations, can't an organization such as ALIPAC do the same? There are by far more citizens opposed to illegal immigration that illegals.

Maybe American citizens need to create their own civil rights movement? The civil rights movement prior to and during Martin Luther King, were comprised of Americans who were not given their fair and deserved rights, was effective. Government could not ignore the rights that Americans were being denied and gave those Americans their rights. As long as government hears the voices of illegals without demonstrations and vocal opposition, government is being convinced that illegals are entitled to the same rights as citizens. If illegals continue to conduct their own "civil rights movements" they will succeed as long as the majority opposed remain silent.

Changes should start at the top - with our President and administration. But people need to educate themselves more about the person they vote for when it comes to congressmen and senators, what and where those people who are running for election stand on the issue of illegal immigration, because those politicans do have an impact in matteres such as illegal immigration. These people are the future of America who will represent the citizen where government issues are discussed/debated with those in power to make change.

The justification that many use "we need immigrants" is just BS. At one time that statement could not have been more true. That was a time when American was growing and expanding. The only thing growing in America is the population. If there is a need for immigrants it would be farm workers. There are many Americans who can waitress or waiter, who are electricians, carpenters, in the construction business, mechanics, etc. who would gladly take those jobs. If illegals were made to leave the US employers would have no choice but to hire Americans who would in turn put their earnings back into the US economy rather than sending it out of the country.
You're right. We only see illegals and THEIR supporters protesting across this country, making demands from OUR government under the banner of civil rights, while they freely trample ours. We only hear THEIR sob stories, which conveniently always include a few crying children, or parents begging not to be deported and separated from their families. We never hear about the countless citizens whose lives have been destroyed due to illegal immigration. That would be promoting racism and discrimination. That would be mean-spirited propaganda.

It's way past time for our so-called leaders to hear OUR voices. It's time for We the People to make demands. As citizens of this country, we are entitled to live here free from foreign interlopers, free from their crimes, and free from their unnecessary and unsustainable fiscal burden. We need to clean house. If we continue to be complacent, and continue to allow the same crooks to remain in Congress and the White House, we will have no one to blame but ourselves.

Our country is being overrun by illegals. Yet, most citizens remain silent for fear of being labeled a racist. The leaders of this invasion skillfully planned their strategy. They knew they couldn't succeed by promoting the positive aspects of illegal immigration, because there are none. So, they exploited the history of this country -- the ugly history; the history that involved slavery, Jim Crow, and institutionalized racism. Never mind that NONE of that is relevant to illegal immigration. But, it worked.

They removed the rule of law from the equation, and replaced it with manufactured racism against "brown" people, realizing most citizens would never relish the thought of returning to such an ugly time. They even managed to succeed at changing the word "illegal" from its true "unlawful" meaning to one denoting bigotry and xenophobia; again, only against the "brown" people. Now, the term illegal alien has become as taboo as the N word. Even government agencies that routinely included the phrase illegal alien in their reports, have now replaced it with "undocumented." After all, no human being is illegal. What an ingenious marketing strategy by the cheap labor industry and their peddlers.

Now, only "racists" dare refer to immigration violators as illegal aliens. Only "racists" support the enforcement of our immigration laws. Only "racists" oppose legalization and a path to citizenship for these wonderful people, whose ONLY "crime" is a desire to feed their families, and survive in a country where they can be free. Only "racists" would deny them this basic human right. This is psychological warfare at its finest. This is total indoctrination.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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What if a large number of people were to call for a 2nd Constitutional Convention? Would we be able to successfully remedy the errors that led to the present crisis and avoid have to launch a revolt?

IMO it's the only chance we have to avoid a revolution. If my fellow Americans continue to see illegal immigrants gaming the system and forcing the government to give them their every need then well it's only a matter of time before they snap. You can only shove someone and marginalize them for so long before they react. We have native born American citizens who are homeless and jobless and meanwhile the illegals and the other "have nots" have free healthcare, free education, free this, free that ... now they can even get Taco Bell for free as I still have to pay $5.10 for a #7 Chicken Quesadilla combo.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:21 AM
 
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I firmly believe only a citizen uprising would change the status quo.



I wouldnt count on it. Americans fail to rally and will continue the "sheep" culture, especially white America. Just sit back and take it
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:03 AM
 
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I firmly believe only a citizen uprising would change the status quo.



I wouldnt count on it. Americans fail to rally and will continue the "sheep" culture, especially white America. Just sit back and take it
It takes a LOT to make us mad. Flying off the handle is more a Mexican, Irish, French and so on thing.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Sorry to upset the apple cart but neither side of the isle is going to fix this problem. Besides, the illegals that have been here have had a zillion kids and we will be a different country in 50 years if not already. This is an issue that both sides of the public seem to agree on mostly but our reps. cant/wont get anything done, too chicken*%&#..I just hope this new demographic wises up and assimilates and comes to appreciate what the USA stands for or stood for. It sure doesnt seem like that will be the case with the current behavior and multitudes of spanish media, Besides that our AG ugly face has said there will be no border in the future. I believe this is the agenda of the globalists. What can we do? Sorry I've lost hope. Hope I didnt upset anyone to much. Keep up the good fight regardless
yes they are here, but they could always be gone tomorrow with the passing of 1 law.
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