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Old 02-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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Location: Denver
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If a law existed, why can't you or Mach quote it?

So because King James I signed a document allowing the creation of Virginia Company which became Jamestown, that was legal in the eyes of the Indians?

So basically any land without written law and borders (upheld by European standard law) can be taken?

 
Old 02-28-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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^This.

Though I will say my people didn't come here on their own. We had nothing to do with the stealing of what's now America (except for the Buffalo Soldiers).
Nor did many of mine. But, that doesn't change the fact that the Native Americans did not have immigration laws.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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So because King James I signed a document allowing the creation of Virginia Company which became Jamestown, that was legal in the eyes of the Indians?

So basically any land without written law and borders can be taken?
You are grasping at straws. Either the Native Americans had immigration laws, or they didn't. If they did, I'm sure there would be a written record. So, where is it?
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:09 PM
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You are grasping at straws. Either the Native Americans had immigration laws, or they didn't. If they did, I'm sure there would be a written record. So, where is it?
Your perspective is too black and white.

Europeans were not invited guests.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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Ultimately the Indians are the biggest argument against illegal immigration. Why should we follow in their footsteps? Why should we allow what amounts to Latin America's dysfunctional underclass to ignore our immigration laws and be rewarded fiscally for doing so?

The facts are that very few Americans today are descended from native Americans or the Jamestown settlers. As I pointed out most of us are descended from people who came to America legally. Why should we welcome those who won't do the same? Why should we not only welcome them but learn their language and pay more in taxes to support them? Because that's the argument that the pro-illegals are making. Unless you're a rich cheap creep who doesn't want to obey American employment laws or an illegal alien, you're asking others to make huge sacrifices to meet your needs.

Why should we?

 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Your perspective is too black and white.

Europeans were not invited guests.
Nor were the Native Americans.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:15 PM
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Nor were the Native Americans.
Who did the Indians conquer? Please provide documentation with laws or it didn't happen.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:18 PM
 
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If a law existed, why can't you or Mach quote it?
Neither of us were there, nor were you. But if the people who were there say there was a law, and their descendants say there was a law, who are you to dispute that?
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Nor did many of mine. But, that doesn't change the fact that the Native Americans did not have immigration laws.
The Native Americans didn't have immigration laws that you acknowledge.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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Nor were the Native Americans.
There was nobody to invite them. They were here first.
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