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Old 02-28-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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Borders according to whom? Europeans map posted below...I am sure the Indian borders were much different.

Again...You are implying that European illegal immigrants broke no native laws...
I'm gonna say MOST of those Indian nations were nomads; they had NO title to the land and I also gonna say they fought each other where there were disputes.

 
Old 02-28-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I would have no problem acknowledging [Native American] immigration laws, if someone could provide proof of their existence.
Well, what would happen on the occasion of an outside tribe moving into the established territory of another?...

It's a very inconsistent response to not think the competition of resources by whom they regarded as foreigners would be any different from YOur feelings...

It is regarding someone that is not as "civilized" as YOurself doesn't have the same abilities...
 
Old 02-28-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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There are very few Mexicans who speak some native indian langauge compared to the number of Spanish speakers...
YOu are really not familiar with Mexico then. That is the real low-income class, why does that break with the notion that the poorest Mexicans are coming here? Many are a separate society, and do not speak any Spanish.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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YOu are really not familiar with Mexico then. That is the real low-income class, why does that break with the notion that the poorest Mexicans are coming here? Many are a separate society, and do not speak any Spanish.
Like what Mexicans are you talking about? I know a few don't speak Spanish, just a few. Like some native Indians here don't speak English, the Navajo have a few on the Rez who don't.
 
Old 02-28-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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YOu are really not familiar with Mexico then. That is the real low-income class, why does that break with the notion that the poorest Mexicans are coming here? Many are a separate society, and do not speak any Spanish.
The fact still remains that the "majority" of Mexicans speak Spanish.

"The Mexican people can speak a variety of languages. There are over 60 indigenous languages in Mexico, although only 6% can speak any of it. This percentage approximately corresponds to about 6 million people in Mexico.
The official language in Mexico is Spanish, simply because this is the language that most Mexicans communicate with".

About Mexico - Languages Spoken in Mexico
 
Old 02-29-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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As in the past here's another example of Indian unity Deputies on patrol near Yosemite after Chukchansi tribal factions clash - latimes.com

On the rez for the last decades there has been many cases of violence against each other. Anyone trying to depict Native Americans as a unified country that was invaded is absolutely clueless.

Yes they suffered , but to depict them as a unified , national group wth immigration laws is a total joke.
 
Old 03-01-2012, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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What I've learned from this entire thread is that if someone moves to a low population area, and the inhabitants even fight YOu, it still doesn't qualify as resistance to YOur immigration. If they do have rules, but YOu can outnumber them, their resistance doesn't matter. And that separate inhabitants across the entire landmass must be unified at a national level, with a culture in writing, to be considered "civilized".

Where does all of these supremacy notions based on having a written language come from?...
 
Old 03-01-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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What I've learned from this thread is that some people are ignorant of history, incredibly contemptous of contemporary Americans, believe that Mexican nationals can break any American laws they want and can't tell the difference between legal and illegal immigration.

But that's not exactly news . . .
 
Old 03-01-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: California
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What I've learned from this entire thread is that if someone moves to a low population area, and the inhabitants even fight YOu, it still doesn't qualify as resistance to YOur immigration. If they do have rules, but YOu can outnumber them, their resistance doesn't matter. And that separate inhabitants across the entire landmass must be unified at a national level, with a culture in writing, to be considered "civilized".

Where does all of these supremacy notions based on having a written language come from?...
You see, your comment is missing the timeline that goes with your gibberish. Spain and Mexico both invited immigrants to come to the territory of Texas, Texas was lost by a revolt of Mexican Citizens. The revolt was due to the continuous moving of the Territory Capital, corruption and finally, Santa Ana over the 1824 agreement....remember the Alamo.

As for Indians and the coming of the Europeans, many Indian tribes looked to deal/barter with these settlers.

You seem more hell bent on your hatred issues then to realize that the views you hold were not the only views of the day and that due to actual facts your views are inherently incorrect.
 
Old 03-01-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...As for Indians and the coming of the Europeans, many Indian tribes looked to deal/barter with these settlers...
So YOu are saying that the Amerindian tribes needed a written language, unified across the entire landmass that laid out their immigration rules to be in effect, but when it came to treaties of offering beads in exchange for land, those sorts of transactions didn't need to be recorded in writing on both sides, or even approved by all of the Amerindian inhabitants across that same landmass?...

Isn't there some disparity in that statement?...
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