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Old 04-29-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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Couple of points.

Hazleton is an anomaly among small cities ... even for Pennsylvania. It is situated at the southern tip of a fairly-large county which has seen better days, but it is not the county seat. That would be Wilkes-Barre, which has plenty of quirks of its own .... the "kinds for cash" private-juvenile-prison scandal, the George Banks and Wolseifer murder cases, the Cabbage Patch doll riot ....and all the rest.

It's a gritty place where a dwindling number of aging, mostly second- and third-generation Eastern European white ethnics clash with a young Latino influx. There is a good deal of "new" industry -- almost all of it beginnging with a huge supply of micro-managed, intense physical work in call centers, warehouses and the like. The labor unrions haven't gotten very far, and aren't likely to.

Mayor Barletta, BTW, got himself elected to the US Congress back in 2010. And Tim Holden, the last Democratic Congressman representing any part of the state with a rural population with the exception of John Murtha (Johnstown) lost his re-election bid in last week's primary.

The point, I suppose, is that in politics as in everything else, most actions spawn an opposite reaction, and the growing grass roots / populist "conservatism" in rural Pennsylvania is one more example.
From what I understand this "young Latino influx" were illegal aliens. No town should have to tolerate them.

 
Old 04-29-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by 2nd trick op View Post
Couple of points.

Hazleton is an anomaly among small cities ... even for Pennsylvania. It is situated at the southern tip of a fairly-large county which has seen better days, but it is not the county seat. That would be Wilkes-Barre, which has plenty of quirks of its own .... the "kinds for cash" private-juvenile-prison scandal, the George Banks and Wolseifer murder cases, the Cabbage Patch doll riot ....and all the rest.

It's a gritty place where a dwindling number of aging, mostly second- and third-generation Eastern European white ethnics clash with a young Latino influx. There is a good deal of "new" industry -- almost all of it beginnging with a huge supply of micro-managed, intense physical work in call centers, warehouses and the like. The labor unrions haven't gotten very far, and aren't likely to.

Mayor Barletta, BTW, got himself elected to the US Congress back in 2010. And Tim Holden, the last Democratic Congressman representing any part of the state with a rural population with the exception of John Murtha (Johnstown) lost his re-election bid in last week's primary.

The point, I suppose, is that in politics as in everything else, most actions spawn an opposite reaction, and the growing grass roots / populist "conservatism" in rural Pennsylvania is one more example.
Luzerne County is a hard core blue county, especially when you are talking about Wilkes-barre. The fact that Lou was elected demonstrates how far the dems
Its also hard core pro-Union inspite of Unions negotiating the best jobs right out of the area.
The corruption in Luzerne and Lakawanna Counties is right there with Chicago and for the same reasons.
The issue with the Latinos is and was about the illegals lowballing jobs, and the drug crime that seemed to move in with the illegals.
Lou was elected over a long time dem because the dems refused to recognize the illegal problem in luzerne cty.
 
Old 04-29-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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Actually, evidence suggests that both eskimoes & people like the Aztecs could have very well originated from the same area. There is also evidence that suggests the Maya may have been as far North as present day San Diego.

If you had all payed closer attention to what you read, you would see that my gripe is not just that Mexicans are denied free entry to land that was taken from them, but that everyone acknowleges the theft of the Native American's land & small forms of recompence have even been enacted due to this acknowledgement, but everyone disregards & even denies the same exact situation with the Mexicans. If I'm wrong about anything I've said at any point & have not yet addressed it, show me. Give me something better than just your disagreement. Something I can't deny. If you're so sure I'm wrong, you must have real, concrete proof.
Uh; if an Apache tried THAT with the Comanches; it'd hit the fan real fast.

AGAIN: MOST, not all, Indians had NO land "rights" they were nomads much like some Arabs even now.

We don't owe the Indians a thing; they're US citizens just like me and have the same rights and duties.
 
Old 04-29-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Hold it right there, please! (snipped). Cali, Arizona and so on are now the US, NOT Mexico.
And never have been!
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