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Old 03-10-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Yes, it's the largest wave. But, it certainly isn't due to LEGAL immigration.

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Immigration - Times Topics - The New York Times


Report Details Growth in Illegal Migration

Opposition to this unprecedented wave of illegal aliens is hardly paranoia. It's a real threat, not only to U.S. workers, but also our national security. We have no idea how many are here, who they are, or what their intentions may be. In addition, they are fleecing U.S. taxpayers to the tune of billions annually, while they send billions home monthly. How anyone can condone such absolute abuse is totally beyond my realm of comprehension.

I am so incredibly sick of the race card being pulled to justify and defend illegal immigration. For the umpteenth time, it is not racist to oppose illegal immigration. In fact, most anti-illegals don't give a damn about the race or ethnicity of illegals. I certainly don't. There are hardcore racists opposing everything from the price of gas to our involvement in the Middle East. Does that mean anyone who shares their view on those issues is also a racist? C'mon, stop this foolishness. It's beyond tiresome.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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That is just factually not true and it shows how appallingly little you know about the subject of immigration, despite your best efforts. We have now the largest wave of immigration - legal immigration - in our nation's history, at least in terms of the sheer numbers. "Colonization"...I think this pretty much reveals all that is necessary to know about opponents of illegal immigration. It's paranoia, plain and simple. A fear of the U.S. without a white majority.

All non white majority countries also fear losing their ethnic and racial majorities. Why should whites be any different. Stop with the manipulation and guilt trips.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 07:58 AM
 
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All non white majority countries also fear losing their ethnic and racial majorities. Why should whites be any different. Stop with the manipulation and guilt trips.
Exactly! For some reason these defenders of illegal aliens seem to think that only countries where there is a dominant white majority should be demonized as being racists for wanting to retain their country's culture and language and not lose it via illegal immigration. As I pointed out many times, if Mexico were to be invaded by millions of illegal Chinese for example and lose their identity as a Hispanic country and Mandarin became the national language these same defenders of illegal aliens would have a hissy fit. Why the double standard? Why are they such hypocrites?
 
Old 03-11-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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Illegal immigration is largely down or at least stable over the past five to ten years. There were years when the number of illegals were as great and may have eclipsed legal immigration but that was also due to deteriorating security in Mexico and an economy that could take them in here. The economic situation here leaves less of an incentive for them to come. That doesn't mean that they don't still try- they do by the hundreds of thousands even now. But it's not as easy as it once was.

Even so, legal immigration still takes in about 800,000 to 1 million every year. It's the largest wave of immigration seen in decades. That's a fact.
I was watching Border Wars the other night. A Border Patrol agent said that they catch approximately 100 illegal aliens crosssing the border every night in Nogales, AZ. That's just the ones they catch, and it's only one town along the 2000+ miles of border.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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Threads like these are the epitome of paradoxal thinking.

US culture is built upon many waves of immigration, constantly evolving....therefore immigrants are the culture, so new immigrants must assimilate to what exactly?

See: melting pot.

learn english.
 
Old 03-12-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Illegal immigration is largely down or at least stable over the past five to ten years. There were years when the number of illegals were as great and may have eclipsed legal immigration but that was also due to deteriorating security in Mexico and an economy that could take them in here. The economic situation here leaves less of an incentive for them to come. That doesn't mean that they don't still try- they do by the hundreds of thousands even now. But it's not as easy as it once was.

Even so, legal immigration still takes in about 800,000 to 1 million every year. It's the largest wave of immigration seen in decades. That's a fact.
By their own admission, the government can't even keep track of those here on government issued visas. So, how the heck can they possibly determine the stability or decline of a transient, illegal population, here without government issued documents, using aliases and stealing identities?

I don't recall anyone disputing the fact that we admit, on average, 1 million legal immigrants annually. In fact, we have stated repeatedly that our legal immigration policy is THE most generous in the world. After all, we welcome more legal immigrants than all other countries combined. Yes, that is indeed a fact. So, why do you now tout our legal immigration record, whereas previously, you complained that we don't allow enough foreigners to come?
 
Old 03-12-2012, 09:44 AM
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learn english.
Not a law, but ok they normally do by the 3rd generation just like many of the waves before (Italians, Germans).
 
Old 03-12-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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Not a law, but ok they normally do by the 3rd generation just like many of the waves before (Italians, Germans).
The difference being, these "immigrants" don't have a right to be here. So, why should we be expected to wait for the 3rd generation to assimilate? And, why should we be forced to pay billions annually to accommodate people who are here in violation of our laws? Not to mention, illegals have no intentions of assimilating. Sadly, unlike others, they don't have to.
 
Old 03-12-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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So, why do you now tout our legal immigration record, whereas previously, you complained that we don't allow enough foreigners to come?
I never was complaining that we don't allow enough foreigners to come. I don't know what 'enough' is, and neither do you. I just don't care if illegals are here or not. I think we ought to enforce immigration laws on the books and generally deter them from entering, but I just don't get the obsession over illegals. Yeah they're here...so freakin what? The obsession over this issue just leads to or, more likely, brings out racial prejudices towards Hispanics on the whole, regardless of their legal status.
 
Old 03-12-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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The difference being, these "immigrants" don't have a right to be here. So, why should we be expected to wait for the 3rd generation to assimilate? And, why should we be forced to pay billions annually to accommodate people who are here in violation of our laws? Not to mention, illegals have no intentions of assimilating. Sadly, unlike others, they don't have to.
You are in no position to know who's interested in assimilating and who isn't. Skilled labor typically have an easier time of assimilation because they have the educational and occupational skills that make integration easier, but that doesn't mean that migrant farm workers aren't interested in assimilation. It seems like whenever they are - like that student from Honduras who wants to be student body president - they are immediately attacked for being here "illegally". It's a two-way street: people have to want to assimilate, and you also have to want them to assimilate.
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