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Old 03-08-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Demand that Americans learn Spanish. Actually pretend that you're really in favor of Americans learning foreign languages. When pressed state that America is in the western hemisphere and therefore Americans should ideally learn Spanish to be truly part of it.

Defend the rights of illegals not to learn English. Because English isn't the official language. And we have no right to force others to learn another language. And that's their choice if they want to learn English or not.

Accuse people who are against illegal immigration of being bigots and racists. Because the only reason anyone could possibly be against the massive importation of low skilled laborers in the middle of a recession is because the people in question have brown skin!

Refuse to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. Because there's obviously no difference between obeying American immigration laws and refusing to obey them.

Imply that all Americans are descended from illegal immigrants. Because there's no difference between an ancestor who moved here to flee Nazi Germany, learned English and loved this country and one who jumped a border fence to get more money.

Tell anti-illegal advocates they lack compassion. Because nothing says compassion like importing millions of people to compete with America's poor people for jobs and increase taxes on the American middle class.



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Old 03-08-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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Tell anti-illegals that these illegals are only here doing jobs that Americans refuse to do.

Claim that these illegals are a net benefit even though they are taking American jobs and taxes even though they don't pay in enough taxes to cover their social costs.

Claim that they are bolstering our SS coffers and without them our seniors would be starving in the streets.

Tell anti-illegals (especially the white variety) that they are hypocrites for wanting our immigration laws enforced because of the actions of their ancestors regardless that many of our ancestors were not among the early settlers nor from a country where they came from.

Claim that every law that a state makes to discourage illegal immigration are racial profiling laws.

I am sure there is more.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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Call them human beings. Howl when anyone dares refer to them as illegals. Because calling criminals criminals is bigotry!

Legalize them on a case by case basis, particularly the ones who have been here for many years. Because if you've been breaking the law for many years you should continue to get away with it.

Compare illegal immigration to a traffic ticket and imply that ALL Americans are criminals. Because I'm sure the first thing most of us do when we move to another country is immediately break that country's laws. And if we do why that clearly makes us worthy candidates for citizenship.

State that deporting them would cost too much, turn American into a fascist nation and involve treating them like cattle. Ignore the enormous costs illegals impose. Pretend that enforcing reasonable immigration laws is just like turning America into Hitler's Germany.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: California
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I like this one:
be seen by the world as a fascist nation by trying to round them up like cattle and tossing them out, sorry France, Spain, Mexico, Canada, etc, etc, etc. (the rest of the world) but you are all fascist nations for rounding up and deporting illegal aliens.

or these:
if the government collects taxes from them, they are paying taxes. And you are benefitting [sic] from those taxes. I guess it means sales taxes or user taxes, it sure isn't income taxes (State or Federal) as they don't make enough to actually owe taxes and the fact that they claim credits that in the end, they receive back much more than was with held from any paycheck they may have received.

Far better to do to that (legalize them) than spend untold billions deporting them so let's just allow them to stay and lose $14 billion per year on them as we already do (which is after they pay taxes ), legalizing them won't change this, in fact it will increase that number as they begin using even more Gov't services.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: southern california
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it is a strong indicator your government has turned on u, when 20 million illegals are at your door taking your jobs bleeding your welfare dry and they do nothing about it.
when the law breaks the law there is no law (billy jack 1972) of course to be fair every time u pay pepe to cut the lawn while your unemployed son sits on the couch u r part of the problem arentcha?
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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it is a strong indicator your government has turned on u, when 20 million illegals are at your door taking your jobs bleeding your welfare dry and they do nothing about it.
when the law breaks the law there is no law (billy jack 1972) of course to be fair every time u pay pepe to cut the lawn while your unemployed son sits on the couch u r part of the problem arentcha?
Those who do that truly aren't anti-illegal immigrationists then, are they? They are a part of the pro-illegal movement instead. I think this topic is about the arguments by the pro-side against those of us who truly are for the rule of law and aren't hypocrites about it.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Here's my all time favorite.

"Who is going to pick your fruit and vegetables if not illegal aliens and without them the price of produce would go sky high." Never mind that only 3% of illegals are picking crops and that the farmers have unlimited visas for legal agricultural workers.
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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We should not punish children for the criminal behavior of their parents. Yet, everyday in this country we enforce laws, arrest, prosecute and incarcerate countless citizens whose children suffer due to their decision to live outside the law. But, we should ignore laws violated by illegal aliens, for the sake of their children.

We should legalize the "otherwise law-abiding" illegals whose ONLY crime is their unlawful presence. Show me an employed illegal alien, and I'll show you an ID thief, fraud, and/or tax evader.

We can't deport them all. Of course, this ignores the fact that if we simply enforce our current laws, we wouldn't need to deport many. If they can't work and can't leech off of taxpayers, they also can't survive in this country. After all, aren't we told they only come here to seek a better life?

It is inhumane to separate families. This is another piece of BS propaganda. This argument ignores the fact that there is absolutely no reason the entire family can't return home. Even if they don't leave with the deported illegal, they can always join them. After all, there is no law prohibiting an illegal alien from leaving this country. Funny, they routinely abandon their families to come here. And, once here, are eager to start "new" families. But, that's different.

Illegal immigration is a civil rights issue akin to the plight of black Americans. This is one of my favorites. Again, this ignores the fact that black citizens have a right to fight for equality in their own country, while illegal aliens don't even have a right to be here, let alone make demands.

If Mexicans return home they'll die from starvation or be killed by cartels. Well, I doubt a country with one of the highest obesity rates in the world has a starvation epidemic. This argument also ignores their low unemployment, booming economy, and a middle class that's growing by leaps and bounds. And, if the cartels are killing everyone in Mexico, why are millions of Mexicans still enjoying life there? Illegals whine about the deplorable conditions in Mexico, while simultaneously waving the Mexican flag as they chant, Viva Mexico! They can't have it both ways.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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WOW! Talk about a thread that just nails it down pat! I really just don't understand how any person living in this country can be okay with this BS unless either they or someone in their family stands to benefit from this type of criminal activity. I'm curious how many of the pro-illegals that frequent this board fall into that catagory.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Diversity and Multiculturalism is a positive thing. When they break our laws, flood the prisons and jails, destroy the learning levels of our schools, drive hospitals into insolvancy, trash every neighborhood in which they reside, cost citizens untold billions, demand to be elevated to a standard of living they never remotely enjoyed at home, refuse to learn English and assimilate, insist that we learn their language and adopt their customs, fund their children's college education, and then insist that we citizens accept all these thing willingly lest we be called racists and bigots, why only then can we understand the benefits of being exposed to and learning the ways and customs of others not like ourselves.
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