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Old 03-25-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Yeah okay i'm bigoted
It seems you have a lot of dislike for the American people.

Why wouldn't you consider moving to another country whose people you very much prefer?

 
Old 03-25-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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if u cut off medical and off section 8 to everybody i mean everybody, 20 million mexicans will return to mexico' the 54% of americans that do not work FTE, will begin to do what they should have all along, work.
Yes, not only would Americans have to work for a living -- something that is a choice right now -- they can work hard for the pay the illegals get, if they're as willing to work off the books, or live better on government handouts.

Many jobs are never offered to Americans, especially the urban inner city youth. Yes they should be working but very often they are not offered the jobs that employers prefer to bring in illegals to do.

And very often illegals only work hard for very low pay until they have given birth and are also living off government handouts. Not many illegals are going out to work after the birth of the baby because with the low wages they can accept, they can't begin to pay for day care. They aren't paying their hospital bills and virtually no illegal refuses the food stamps and WIC coupons and Section 8 housing that come with their US born children.

But you're right - the fact that able bodied illegals and American citizens have the option not to work but still live very very well is one of the problems. The fact that we need continuous massive illegal immigration only shows how quickly the illegals catch on and they stop working and their replacements do their old jobs.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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then there would only be native americans left
So is this another "all Americans whose ancestors came from Europe" are here illegally nonsense claim?
 
Old 03-25-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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I don't think many people on those photos would like to or are able to do typical illegal immigrant jobs

The illegals themselves are the last to be blamed. It is mostly Americans' fault, be it consumers, be it employers.
You can tell from people's faces that they don't want to work? Amazing! What is a typical illegal immigrant job that Americans haven't always done for a fair wage?

No, the illegals are every bit as much to blame as the greedy employers and please don't lump the rest of us law abiding Americans in with them. Quit treating illegal aliens like children by dismissing any guilt on their part when they know fully well they are breaking our immigration and labor laws!
 
Old 03-25-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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You are very uninformed about Brazilian immigration rules. Currently, our immigration rules are very strict and is not so easy to emigrate to Brazil as it was few years ago.
Even so, I and the vast majority of Brazilians we have no prejudice against immigrants. We are not a xenophobic people like many other countries. We are always open arms to everyone.
And so is the U.S. We allow in over 1 million "legal" immigrants per year. In fact most of those legal immigrants come from Mexico and other Latino countries. There is no ethnic group or nationality that is a stranger to our country and yet we are accused of being "xenophobic" which is a fear of strangers.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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No, it is no secret there are more or less regular amnesties for overstayers.
Brazil: Amnesty for illegal immigrants sparks hope and controversy Global Voices
However, most of the illegals in this country aren't visa overstayers. They just snuck in.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Really Bernie Madoff did it all wrong. He should have pulled the victim card and said it was really the victims of his greed whole fault for forcing him to want their money.

Madoff only took their money, he didn't destroy their minds, their bodies. So Madoff sits in prison while the Mexican drug lords cavort in the most opulent resorts rolling in the big money and they are being viewed as the victims in all this.

Poor poor Shorty Guzman, all those people he's ordered decapitated. He just couldn't help it, it wasn't his extreme greed, it was all the fault of the black inner city youths who never wanted to work a job and instead turned down all those $26 an hour airconditioned office jobs.
Addressing your last sentence we all know that many Americans don't want to work in an office or lack the education to do so. We have always had a large American blue collar workforce in our country. I guess they are just supposed to roll over and give up their jobs to illegals aliens and demand a white collared job instead even though they enjoy doing manual labor jobs instead. They should just forget doing factory jobs, construction jobs, hospitality jobs.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 04:17 PM
 
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if u cut off medical and off section 8 to everybody i mean everybody, 20 million mexicans will return to mexico' the 54% of americans that do not work FTE, will begin to do what they should have all along, work.
Many of these unemployed Americans were displaced by illegal aliens they didn't choose to be on welfare. They have always wanted to work.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 09:23 PM
 
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So is this another "all Americans whose ancestors came from Europe" are here illegally nonsense claim?
yep so what
 
Old 03-26-2012, 03:25 AM
Yac
 
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This thread has no focus and no purpose, and the sole topic seems to be "argue with the same folks about the same things you've argued countless times, get pats on back from those on your side. rinse and repeat".
Closed.
Yac.
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