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Old 03-30-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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I guess Obama is running out of Americans who will vote for him and has to bring in some fresh stock
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I guess Obama is running out of Americans who will vote for him and has to bring in some fresh stock
Someone that becomes a Legal Permanent Resident today would not be able to naturalize in time for the 2012 elections...

So unless he loses the election, but is selected as a nominee later, he is unable to gain a voter that way...

Obama's approval rating is above 50% now (despite gas prices), maybe YOu were being facetious?...
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Why doesnt he propose that we make it easier for family members of those here legally to immigrate here? Oh because who would that pander too??????
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: California
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Someone that becomes a Legal Permanent Resident today would not be able to naturalize in time for the 2012 elections...

So unless he loses the election, but is selected as a nominee later, he is unable to gain a voter that way...

Obama's approval rating is above 50% now (despite gas prices), maybe YOu were being facetious?...
Approval ratings are not the same as likely voters, as his likely voter % is below 50.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Approval ratings are not the same as likely voters, as his likely voter % is below 50.
But it is always a view that "amnesty" produces instant citizenship around here...

What is that all about?...
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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But it is always a view that "amnesty" produces instant citizenship around here...

What is that all about?...
Actually, no. What Obama is doing is pandering to Hispanic citizen voters most of whom want amnesty for these illegals. However, looking to the future after these amnestied illegals were to become citizens they would be Democrat voters. There is a two-fold agenda here.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Actually, no. What Obama is doing is pandering to Hispanic citizen voters most of whom want amnesty for these illegals. However, looking to the future after these amnestied illegals were to become citizens they would be Democrat voters. There is a two-fold agenda here.
But those "amnestied" people themselves could not specifically vote for President Obama in a 2012 election, could they?...
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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But those "amnestied" people themselves could not specifically vote for President Obama in a 2012 election, could they?...
Since I said no such thing then why do you even ask? The Hispanic vote that Obama is after is the Hispanic-American vote. It is very telling that he has to promise to ignore and not enforce our immigration laws in order to achieve that, isn't it?
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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Some folks tend to ignore the fact that Obama is a talking head for his party. Like all sitting presidents. His agenda is that of his party. Party agenda is hardly limited to 1 election. It would in fact target furure elections as well. After all the party's are in the business of brokering power. They have greater interests than just the 2012 election.

I myself look back to when Reagan signed the amnesty bill. A democrat named Ted kennedy was co-author of the bill. The deal was pass the amnesty and then the house would fund tighter border security and enforcement. The house and senate promptly renigged on their end of the deal. Reagan got credit for very bad bill and the pros took credit for granting an amnesty..
An amnesty today solves nothing and encourages more abuse of our systems and generosity. The Fact that Mexico is by far the most extreme violator can be explained by their proximity. That wouldnt explain the mexican gov's attempt to assist thier people in violating our laws with how to manuals.
What would explain a lot is the the obvious lawlessness in Mexico. Perhaps disregarding laws is a cultural thing. I am pretty sure disregarding traffic laws in Thailand is cultural too I am in Thailand now and cringe when I ride in a taxi. LOL
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:46 PM
 
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Some folks tend to ignore the fact that Obama is a talking head for his party. Like all sitting presidents. His agenda is that of his party. Party agenda is hardly limited to 1 election. It would in fact target furure elections as well. After all the party's are in the business of brokering power. They have greater interests than just the 2012 election.

I myself look back to when Reagan signed the amnesty bill. A democrat named Ted kennedy was co-author of the bill. The deal was pass the amnesty and then the house would fund tighter border security and enforcement. The house and senate promptly renigged on their end of the deal. Reagan got credit for very bad bill and the pros took credit for granting an amnesty..
An amnesty today solves nothing and encourages more abuse of our systems and generosity. The Fact that Mexico is by far the most extreme violator can be explained by their proximity. That wouldnt explain the mexican gov's attempt to assist thier people in violating our laws with how to manuals.
What would explain a lot is the the obvious lawlessness in Mexico. Perhaps disregarding laws is a cultural thing. I am pretty sure disregarding traffic laws in Thailand is cultural too I am in Thailand now and cringe when I ride in a taxi. LOL
Wow, I would love to take a trip to Thailand, tinman.
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