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Old 09-14-2007, 02:37 PM
 
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Do you place the blame on them or our businesses for hiring them? For our government giving them tax dollars?

I don't even think we are arguing here, lol.

I just think that the racial profiling, hence, coming to this forum and yelling "mexicans did this" and "mexicans do that" is backwards and spreads hate.

You are taking what is a very racist thread about how Mexicans park and trying to make it not about race.
Do you not agree that pregnant women enter the US illegally, not in search of a job, but rather seeking to give birth on US soil so that their child will be a US citizen? This then immediately entitles them to benefits such as free medical care, WIC and Section 8 housing that they have contributed absolutely nothing towards. And now that there is a 'citizen' in the family it becomes that much more difficult to deport them.
This is called 'gaming the system'. This is called cheating. And you know something? Americans don't like cheaters. Why do you think there was always such anger over the possibly mythical 'Welfare Queen driving a new Cadillac'? It wasn't because people were opposed to providing welfare to those who genuinely needed it, it was because the Welfare Queen was cheating the system and taking benefits that she should not have received. Why do you think people were pleased Leona Helmsley went to jail for income tax fraud?
When illegal aliens cheat by entering our country illegally with the sole purpose of having an anchor baby so that they can live here and collect benefits, that is no different. This benefits them far more than the average US citizen, who is stuck paying the bills.

 
Old 09-14-2007, 02:44 PM
Status: "Make America the Great Joke Again" (set 22 days ago)
 
Location: Denver
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Do you not agree that pregnant women enter the US illegally, not in search of a job, but rather seeking to give birth on US soil so that their child will be a US citizen? This then immediately entitles them to benefits such as free medical care, WIC and Section 8 housing that they have contributed absolutely nothing towards. And now that there is a 'citizen' in the family it becomes that much more difficult to deport them.
This is called 'gaming the system'. This is called cheating. And you know something? Americans don't like cheaters. Why do you think there was always such anger over the possibly mythical 'Welfare Queen driving a new Cadillac'? It wasn't because people were opposed to providing welfare to those who genuinely needed it, it was because the Welfare Queen was cheating the system and taking benefits that she should not have received. Why do you think people were pleased Leona Helmsley went to jail for income tax fraud?
When illegal aliens cheat by entering our country illegally with the sole purpose of having an anchor baby so that they can live here and collect benefits, that is no different. This benefits them far more than the average US citizen, who is stuck paying the bills.

Fine, but don't assume that every pregnant hispanic girl in America is an illegal, like a lot of people do on this forum. That is just ignorance.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 02:47 PM
 
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Fine, but don't assume that every pregnant hispanic girl in America is an illegal, like a lot of people do on this forum. That is just ignorance.
I very specifically said pregnant women who enter the US illegally. At no point have I in any way implied that every pregnant hispanic girl in America is illegal so I am not sure why you are giving me advice. But hey.....that's OK.

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Old 09-14-2007, 02:50 PM
 
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Fine, but don't assume that every pregnant hispanic girl in America is an illegal, like a lot of people do on this forum. That is just ignorance.
BIRTHS:

380,000 Plus "ANCHOR BABIES" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. Citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers.

66 % OF all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers

Here is the link::::::

Immigration debate gets angrier - [domain blocked due to spam]
 
Old 09-14-2007, 02:51 PM
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I very specifically said pregnant women who enter the US illegally. At no point have I in any way implied that every pregnant hispanic girl in America is illegal so you perhaps you should save your advice.
Look at the posts in this forum, look at the original post. The context of this thread is people with mexican flags parking...

It breeds ignorance.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 02:56 PM
Status: "Make America the Great Joke Again" (set 22 days ago)
 
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BIRTHS:

380,000 Plus "ANCHOR BABIES" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. Citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers.

66 % OF all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers

Here is the link::::::

Immigration debate gets angrier - [domain blocked due to spam]

So it is ok to assume all pregnant hispanic women are illegals? Is that what you are saying?

Why do I know a mexican-american woman who is legal, knows english, makes 6 figures and has to deal with racism everyday?
She is not hiding illegal immigrants, do you think that is fair?
 
Old 09-14-2007, 02:58 PM
 
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Look at the posts in this forum, look at the original post. The context of this thread is people with mexican flags parking...

It breeds ignorance.
Yes, correct but also has to do with criminals and the thinking that they can do whatever they want i this country. They even use intimidation to help continue their unlawful ways. Frankly it all goes hand in hand.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 03:00 PM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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Self Quote, and here is what you all want right?

California Proposition 187 (1994) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But you should read this as well..

Let's Stop Blaming the Victim (broken link)
Illegal immigrants should be entitled to absolutely nothing except maybe a bus ride back to their country of origin. They are criminals that crossed our borders illegally and should not be coddled or cared for. They have proven they have no respect or loyalty to this country or their own people for that matter. Their are LAW ABIDING immigrants that go through the legal process and have no desire to come here as a criminal and they push these people to the back of the line. It’s high time we stay on top of our so called elected politicians and demand they deport all these illegal immigrant criminals!
 
Old 09-14-2007, 03:01 PM
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Question for all of you then:
How can tell an illegal from legal hispanic person?

Or is it cool to just be racist to all of them? Is that what we are implying here?
 
Old 09-14-2007, 03:04 PM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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News from ABC: American Liberals Leaving for Canada | NewsBusters.org

American moves to Canada reach record high




You can also just Google: "americans leaving for canada" and see for yourself.
What does this have to do with illegal immigrants. Canada had homosexuals moving there because they want homosexual marriage. Please!
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