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Old 09-14-2007, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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They are not victims, they are willing participants in this.

 
Old 09-14-2007, 11:39 AM
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Location: Denver
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You say, you feel sorry for them....well, if you were open minded about it, you'd feel sorry for us to....maybe we're all wrong...in different ways, we all have to learn to live together....both sides are wrong....period.

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Oh believe me I take blame for being part of this country, as all of you should too. I love America but this is capitalism true and true.

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They are not victims, they are willing participants in this.
If you were getting paid 25x more here, wouldn't you be too?

Seriously going to work now..lol.. adios! Can anyone help me learn Mandarin Chinese, I need it for work on Software.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 11:41 AM
 
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Oh believe me I take blame for being part of this country, as all of you should too. I love America but this is capitalism true and true.



If you were getting paid 25x more here, wouldn't you be too?

Seriously going to work lol now adios!
Not if I was going to be hurting others. See I have respect and a conscience
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:02 PM
 
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Not if I was going to be hurting others. See I have respect and a conscience
You've got that right. Some of us were brought up with true American values. We respect the law and others. I would no more take advantage of someone as I would cut off a leg. Soooo when I see myself and other good Americans taken advantage of it burns my %$#$! We are tired of being a doormat to people that don't give a damn about us or our country!
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:05 PM
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Location: Denver
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You've got that right. Some of us were brought up with true American values. We respect the law and others. I would no more take advantage of someone as I would cut off a leg. Soooo when I see myself and other good Americans taken advantage of it burns my %$#$! We are tired of being a doormat to people that don't give a damn about us or our country!
That is all fine, but you are blaming Mexicans and not the American capitalists that hire them. We shouldn't be talking about how Mexicans drive, we should be talking about the companies giving them money to buy a car.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:08 PM
 
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That is all fine, but you are blaming Mexicans and not the American capitalists that hire them. We shouldn't be talking about how Mexicans drive, we should be talking about the companies giving them money to buy a car.
We should be doing both. No one is making them drive that car. there are not innocent in any of this, they know how to use and abuse the system.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:38 PM
 
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That is all fine, but you are blaming Mexicans and not the American capitalists that hire them. We shouldn't be talking about how Mexicans drive, we should be talking about the companies giving them money to buy a car.
Let's leave the capitalists out of this for a moment. What 'job' is some 8 months pregnant Mexican citizen inexorably drawn to when she crosses the border illegally to have an anchor baby in a US hospital?
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:45 PM
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Let's leave the capitalists out of this for a moment. What 'job' is some 8 months pregnant Mexican citizen inexorably drawn to when she crosses the border illegally to have an anchor baby in a US hospital?
You're telling me that doesn't happen with Brittons, Irish, Brazilians, Chinese?
I have met many UK and Irish that have done this, also come here looking for a man to marry...

It just so happens Mexico is right next door so it occurs more often. This happens in NYC all the time. You are just picking on the poor and poverished.
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:49 PM
 
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You're telling me that doesn't happen with Brittons, Irish, Brazilians, Chinese?
I have met many UK and Irish that have done this, also come here looking for a man to marry...

It just so happens Mexico is right next door so it happens more often.
No, you just got done blaming American capitalists for illegal aliens from Mexico being in the US, did you not? What 'job' is a pregnant illegal who crosses the border looking for? How is it American capitalists 'fault' that she is here?
 
Old 09-14-2007, 01:51 PM
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No, you just got done blaming American capitalists for illegal aliens from Mexico being in the US, did you not? What 'job' is a pregnant illegal who crosses the border looking for? How is it American capitalists 'fault' that she is here?
And I countered, how is that any different from another race coming here to have a baby illegally (well but legal)?

You switch context, I counter, simple.
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