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Old 04-02-2012, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Mexifornia
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whats the big deal. dont you think is better to have them taking a seat at college, turning into good assets for america, than have them sitting in a cell. it actually cost less to send them to college than prison.
Don't you think it's better for a citizen/legal resident of the US to take that seat instead?
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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It seems to me that you live in a fantasy world. You are dealing with humans, who will do anything they can to fulfill their
dream and aspiration whatever those might be, Regardless of laws. Just imagine if we were living in your fantasy world. America wouldn't exist, as we know it now. We would be still paying taxes to England. There would still be slaves. During Hitler's regime it was lawful to exterminate the Jews, but according to your logic, Jews were criminals (breaking the law) just for trying to survive. Wanted or not illegal immigration is needed here. Otherwise they wouldn't be here we have the power, to get them out. You pretend to care a lot about you fellow Americans, but what have you done. Have you hire anyone. Do you share your income with unemployed Americans. I forgot, you want the company owner, big medium and small, and big corporation to make a sacrifice, to cut their earnings and share it. You are not helping by sharing your diatribe through this means. An illegal immigrant does more for America by cutting the grass, than all the time you spend writting you empty words.
Speak for yourself, please. I want illegal aliens OUT. The rest of what you said can be applied to Mexico yet few people want Spain to take back the Hispanics. MOST illegal aliens are Mexicans; which makes no sense, Mexico is NOT Haiti, Haiti IS poor.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) is developing a scaled-back version of the Dream Act, which would allow people brought to the U.S. as children to gain legal status, but not citizenship, if they enroll in college or the military. Several Senate Republicans have signed on to bipartisan legislation aimed at broadening access to the legal immigrant visa system.

GOP Tries to Woo Hispanics - WSJ.com

And the pandering continues from both parties. First off, these kids would be taking seats in our colleges and reduced tuition that should be designated to our own kids. Second, with the job shortages we have they would be competing for jobs against American kids. Third, joining the military is going to look mighty good to our own kids as a source of education and income. From what I am hearing there is a waiting list to enlist these days. Even our own returning soldiers from Iraq can't find a job these days. And finally, the worse part is that there would be a push to allow their parents to remain here aka separation of families boo-hooing. How many illegal aliens would be allowed to remain here under this scenario?
Why can't they woo the American people?

When they do that they automatically segregate themselves. Most illegals in this country are hispanic and its grouping them together.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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Two words for the GOP: Good luck.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: California
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You are wrong, its not cheaper. It is more expensive and a lot less efficient. Lots of companies would have to close or move overseas. Because it would be almost impossible to hire people to work for them legal aliens , for the same wage. And at the same time be competitive, by offering a good product. They would probably have to cut on the quality of the material being use just to be able to make a profit. They would have to do that if they want to hire legal aliens. You have to get used to the fact that illegal will be here fore a while, that what ever you think about the subject decisions had been made and it doesn't matter what you think.
Lets analyze your flawed train of thought. To deport 1 illegal immigrant costs roughly $12,500. How much does it cost to deport 1 illegal immigrant? $12,500 Sea to Shining Sea

The lifetime fiscal impact of an illegal immigrant costs $89,000. The New Americans: Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of Immigration

Now, please explain how you think its not cheaper to deport them?

Business going overseas??? Most illegals work in the service industry, not blue collar work. The few manufacturing plants we still have here can't go overseas simply due to cost of product, i.e. meat packing plants, etc.

So now your argument is shown to be nothing but tired rhetoric for which you are very ill informed when it comes to the actual understanding of illegal immigration to include basic economics.
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