Cheap Labor??? (website, born, illegals, law)

[RaePena]

Originally Posted by crittersitter

No, hatred is directed towards people that are here ILLEGALLY. It just so happens that the majority of those people happen to come across the border from Mexico. We are just sick and tired of paying for them and having them expect us to give them a free ride. How can that be so hard to understand?????

When did you ever hear "those people" say we want a free ride. "Those people" DO NOT want your pitty, your money, your charity, or for you to even look in their direction (if you do). You really need to carefully watch the way you put your words. Who is we??? Do you represent all the "legals" and "Americans" or what. You are speaking for yourself. I think that "we" and "them" are some poor choice of words to use when trying to get a point across about "we" not being racist.

[Nea1]

Originally Posted by RaePena

When did you ever hear "those people" say we want a free ride. "Those people" DO NOT want your pitty, your money, your charity, or for you to even look in their direction (if you do). You really need to carefully watch the way you put your words. Who is we??? Do you represent all the "legals" and "Americans" or what. You are speaking for yourself. I think that "we" and "them" are some poor choice of words to use when trying to get a point across about "we" not being racist.

"WE"? are you an illegal?

[lpdsag]

I have another piece of food for thought. I am from the midwest and we have a very high illegal imigrant situation here "along with many other parts of the country". I am not against hispanics but against all illegals who are here with no legal right to be here. But this instance I am going to give you does revolve around our illegal hispanic problem.

We have small towns where I live and there are alot of rural kids that attend the local schools and the schools are quite small. The problem is this: alot of the hispanic population "illegals" are living in houses and fitting several families under one roof. Because of this they are paying property taxes on one house and sending a dozen kids to school from that one house. Now we have a heavy population of illegal children that can not read or write english. The schools are now having to start teaching the english language to these children and the "legal children of all nationalities" are suffering because time is being taken away from their learning to learn the english language. The schools are over-crowded and there seems to be no end in site for these rural families. Why are we spending tax payers money from honest hard working legal imigrants, on teaching the basic fundamentals that most learn before they even start school. Why should the "legal imigrants" have to suffer and loose out on their education because the system has gotten so bad. The problem is so bad at this point with imigration that government heads want to just make them all legal and wipe the slate clean. In my opinion they could not be more wrong. Something needs done to fix this problem. I do believe that employers should pay a heavy fine for hiring illegals but the problem is this: Employers have to hire anyone with proper identification. You can not honestly tell by most of the ID's you see which ones are illegal. You then have to hire them and it is up to the federal government to take over from there. When you report to your state all of your new hires the government has what they need. They can cross check to see if the ss# matches what is in their system. The problem now is this: It has gone on for so many years that the system is full of incorrect matching names and ID's. The government can't possibly track them all down. So their idea is make them legal and wipe the slate clean. We need people in office who are willing to step up to the plate and start tracking these imigrants down that do not have the legal right to be here and send them home. If you don't ever try and fix the problem we will just continue to attract more to come here because they know that they will not be saught after.

Again, my opinion on the matter.

[NJ Chutzpah]

Only three ways this can all work out

1. Let them all stay on the condition that they pay back everything they got plus interest due to inflation

2. Kick them all out including their kids

3. Keep them here and enslave them

[lpdsag]

Originally Posted by NJ Chutzpah

Only three ways this can all work out

1. Let them all stay on the condition that they pay back everything they got plus interest due to inflation

2. Kick them all out including their kids

3. Keep them here and enslave them

I feel the system should deport anyone here without the legal right. That is after tightening the borders (because you know they will all come back). Yes it will take alot of time and money but we are spending millions a year just keeping them here. Slavery is not an option plain and simple. And you will never get anyone of them to pay back any money. I would like to hear a politician actualy come up with an idea, express it and inforce it rather than just telling us all what we want to here until election day. We need someone with some back bone that is willing to stand up for this country and uphold the laws of the land and not justify excuses for making life easier!

[crittersitter]

Originally Posted by RaePena

When did you ever hear "those people" say we want a free ride. "Those people" DO NOT want your pitty, your money, your charity, or for you to even look in their direction (if you do). You really need to carefully watch the way you put your words. Who is we??? Do you represent all the "legals" and "Americans" or what. You are speaking for yourself. I think that "we" and "them" are some poor choice of words to use when trying to get a point across about "we" not being racist.

You've got to be friggin kiddin' me! I guess "those people" as you put it - which sounds kind of racist to me think US hospitals and schools are free????? I guess that the government just has a bunch of money trees in DC where they pick the dollars. Not to mention welfare and the likes. Just because "those people" have a job it does not mean they don't take from the system. Wake up and smell the coffee and stop wasting time with petty correction of my use of we and them and throwing out the racial card when you have no legitimate argument for those breaking the law.

[citigirl]

Originally Posted by RaePena

When did you ever hear "those people" say we want a free ride. "Those people" DO NOT want your pitty, your money, your charity, or for you to even look in their direction (if you do). You really need to carefully watch the way you put your words. Who is we??? Do you represent all the "legals" and "Americans" or what. You are speaking for yourself. I think that "we" and "them" are some poor choice of words to use when trying to get a point across about "we" not being racist.

I guess you have never watched any of the illegal immigrants protesting in the streets and not asking for entitlements they are not entitled to but demanding entitlements they are not entitled to.

The solution is to put so much unrelentin gpressure on our government they they give up and start supporting AMERICANS!

[junkman18]

Originally Posted by Torn2pieces

Illegal Aliens aren't all from Mexico - I refer to the criminals as illegals or illegal aliens.

No not all illegals are from mexico, But almost all are Hispanic. Don't see illegal Canadian gangs on the streets or in jail.

[Seth258]

The gigs up folks, its not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/refugees.asp


Pleas take five minutes out of your lives to help fight the propogation of misinformation on the internet. Thats all it took me. Later =)

[Alanboy395]

Originally Posted by cynwldkat

Cheap Labor?
>>
>>SO...WHO'S KIDDIN' WHO???
>>Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business
>>doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
>>Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you
>>Americans don't want the jobs.
>>But the bottom line is cheap labor.
>>
>>The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, a lie...an oxymoron.
>>There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example, an
>>illegal alien with a wife and five children.
>>He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour.
>>At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the
>>end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an
>>"earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
>>He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies
>>for food stamps. He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay)
>>health care. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
>>He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief
>>from high energy bills. If they are or become, aged, blind or
>>disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can
>>qualify for Medicare
>>All of this is at the taxpayer's expense.
>>He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
>>insurance.
>>Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed
material.
>>He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
>>benefits.
>>Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after
>>paying their bills and his.
>>The American taxpayer's also pay for increased crime, graffiti and
>>trash clean up.
>>Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!
>>Wake up USA!

Stating the obvious:

The businesses don't really care about the havoc that illegals reek on our wallets, neighborhoods, and public education. All these greedy-*^& employers care about is getting their job done for the lowest cost possible.