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05-03-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum
The focus of the topic is now on the perceived ethnicity of Baby Lilly and her maternal Grandmother...
The assumption is that Jim Hiott, Amber's fiance, is the father of the baby, and he certainly did not conceal (on Facebook) that he had ethnically diverse fellow soldiers and friends...
A very cruel irony being that the baby would seemingly be less "Hispanic" than her mother Amber (whom was JT Ready's financial campaign manager in his bid for Sheriff), and not of any formed opinion to be an illegal alien sympathizer yet...
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You're the one focusing on the ethnicity of this baby as part of Ready's motive for killing her and the rest of the family. There is nothing that I have read in the news that indicates that. LE hasn't even said that Ready was the shooter to my knowledge. Yet you've made up your mind that he was and that it was a race based hate crime. Geez, this is just like the Zimmerman/Martiin incident where Zimmerman has already been convicted by the race baiters without even a trial.
Last edited by chicagonut; 05-03-2012 at 12:24 PM..
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05-03-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach50
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From your article:
"Sources identified the shooter as Jason "J.T." Ready"
What are these sources? There has been no official announcement by LE that is what occured. I am not saying that isn't a possible scenario but I will wait for an "official" announcement rather than playing armchair detective like you are. Not to mention the implications of a race based hate crime going on by some in here before the facts are even disclosed.
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05-03-2012, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
You may not need any other reason than that but let's not deny that his views on illegal immigration have inflamed you also.
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I do not hold a Neo-Nazi to any lesser or greater standard based on their opinion of illegal immigration...
Just them being a Nazi is enough for me...
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05-03-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum
I do not hold a Neo-Nazi to any lesser or greater standard based on their opinion of illegal immigration...
Just them being a Nazi is enough for me...
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As I said however, part of your objection to him was his stance on illegal immigration. Remain in denial if you wish.
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05-03-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
From your article:
"Sources identified the shooter as Jason "J.T." Ready"
What are these sources? There has been no official announcement by LE that is what occured. I am not saying that isn't a possible scenario but I will wait for an "official" announcement rather than playing armchair detective like you are. Not to mention the implications of a race based hate crime going on by some in here before the facts are even disclosed.
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On that news page there is a photo captioned as "Jess Boggs reacts after finding out that his daughter was one of five people killed in a shooting at a home in Gilbert on May 2, 2012.". It could only be Baby Lilly that would be "his daughter". Maybe JT Ready recently became aware of that parentage?
It also has "...In a statement of organization filed Jan. 11, Amber Mederos was listed as treasurer of the Committee to Elect J.T. Ready. Her name was nowhere to be found in amended paperwork filed March 12."...
Is the picture becoming clearer for you now?...
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05-03-2012, 01:10 PM
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Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
From your article:
"Sources identified the shooter as Jason "J.T." Ready"
What are these sources? There has been no official announcement by LE that is what occured. I am not saying that isn't a possible scenario but I will wait for an "official" announcement rather than playing armchair detective like you are. Not to mention the implications of a race based hate crime going on by some in here before the facts are even disclosed.
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Latest update from AZ Central says that "authorities" believe Ready was the shooter.
Also that there was a witness.
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05-03-2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum
On that news page there is a photo captioned as "Jess Boggs reacts after finding out that his daughter was one of five people killed in a shooting at a home in Gilbert on May 2, 2012.". It could only be Baby Lilly that would be "his daughter". Maybe JT Ready recently became aware of that parentage?
It also has "...In a statement of organization filed Jan. 11, Amber Mederos was listed as treasurer of the Committee to Elect J.T. Ready. Her name was nowhere to be found in amended paperwork filed March 12."...
Is the picture becoming clearer for you now?...
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No not all, Sherlock.
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05-03-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum
On that news page there is a photo captioned as "Jess Boggs reacts after finding out that his daughter was one of five people killed in a shooting at a home in Gilbert on May 2, 2012.". It could only be Baby Lilly that would be "his daughter". Maybe JT Ready recently became aware of that parentage?
It also has "...In a statement of organization filed Jan. 11, Amber Mederos was listed as treasurer of the Committee to Elect J.T. Ready. Her name was nowhere to be found in amended paperwork filed March 12."...
Is the picture becoming clearer for you now?...
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If I were going to split with a boyfriend or spouse, one of the first things I would do is remove them from any position in which that angered future Ex could harm me.
Is it possible we are looking at a domestic dispute which ended terribly wrong?
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05-03-2012, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OhBeeHave
If I were going to split with a boyfriend or spouse, one of the first things I would do is remove them from any position in which that angered future Ex could harm me.
Is it possible we are looking at a domestic dispute which ended terribly wrong?
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True, and it is all pure speculation right now. I don't have any preconceived notions about what happened and why right now. I always wait for the facts and evidence to present themselves. Some however are anxious to play armchair detective and whatever fits their agenda they will state it as they want to see this play out.
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05-03-2012, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OhBeeHave
If I were going to split with a boyfriend or spouse, one of the first things I would do is remove them from any position in which that angered future Ex could harm me.
Is it possible we are looking at a domestic dispute which ended terribly wrong?
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The house was in Linda Mederos's name, with JT Ready living there for the last two years (for other timelines, Baby Lilly was born in January of 2011, so to have been conceived slightly more than two years ago). JT obviously felt it necessary to reorganize his campaign staff on March 12th. It would be interesting to know if he had been living at Linda's house since then.
News reports listed JT Ready as being in "body armor" for the incident. Unless he sat around the house that way, that in itself shows premeditation. My money is that he showed up with full intentions of what was going to happen, maybe to the level of a shoot-out with the police afterwards.
The two 55-gallon barrels with fluid in the backyard raise questions...
If it is acid, would it be to dispose of migrant bodies?...
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