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Old 09-21-2007, 05:26 PM
 
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Apparently you don't get it....The killer wasn't supposed to be in this country! He was here illegally. If he had been kept out, like he is supposed to be, he wouldn't have been here to kill someone!!! Get it????
he wasnt supposed to be here according to who? our government? the same people that are illegally in iraq? classifications are not always correct. drug users and homosexuals are labeled criminals in most parts of the country. does that mean that the sentiment is correct? blind faith in our government's decision making and classifications is dangerous, especially at this venture, and ESPECIALLY given the hypocrisies that exist within our governing body. i mean, if the white man hadnt violently taken american land, then the cop wouldnt be here to make false arrests (ie dna conviction overturns) or be involved in brutality or murder. its all perspective.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:32 PM
 
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Apparently you don't get it....The killer wasn't supposed to be in this country! He was here illegally. If he had been kept out, like he is supposed to be, he wouldn't have been here to kill someone!!! Get it????
what! he was a killer. Just because he had no poxy piece of paper that said he was lucky in the immigration lottery means nothing.

Blame it on the man .. not his statas.

I guess you are pissed that there is foreigners on your turf dude. That's natural.

He should not have been in the country?????

In all fairness.

there is only one people that should be in the americas. And that the indians that where drove out.

maybe they had no green card.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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he wasnt supposed to be here according to who? our government? the same people that are illegally in iraq? classifications are not always correct. drug users and homosexuals are labeled criminals in most parts of the country. does that mean that the sentiment is correct? blind faith in our government's decision making and classifications is dangerous, especially at this venture, and ESPECIALLY given the hypocrisies that exist within our governing body. i mean, if the white man hadnt violently taken american land, then the cop wouldnt be here to make false arrests (ie dna conviction overturns) or be involved in brutality or murder. its all perspective.
You sir, are displaying raw ignorance. Illegally in Iraq? Not so. We were invited. Even if your mind can't grasp that. Saddam agreed in 1991 that we could inspect his weapons plants to see that they were shut down. He didn't comply with that agreement. He kicked our weapons inspectors out. He didn't comply! So we went in, according to our agreement, and kicked his butt. Our problem is that we should have gone in 10 years ago.

Where do you get off calling it illegal?

Same with illegals in our country. They are ILLEGAL, period. If the borders were shut down, if our Deputies didn't have their hands tied, if our police didn't have their hands tied, and if Ron Paul didn't have his way, we'd shut it down and keep the illegals out. Hence, we'd illiminate most of our crime. Yeah, MOST of our crime.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:06 PM
 
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You sir, are displaying raw ignorance. Illegally in Iraq? Not so. We were invited. Even if your mind can't grasp that.
we put saddam in power. before we were invited. try reading a history book.
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Saddam agreed in 1991 that we could inspect his weapons plants to see that they were shut down. He didn't comply with that agreement. He kicked our weapons inspectors out. He didn't comply! So we went in, according to our agreement, and kicked his butt. Our problem is that we should have gone in 10 years ago.
our president said our invasion of iraq was due to the terrorist link, initially. we used afghanistan as a stepping stone, remember? the "shock and awe" campaign was the beginning of the war never declared by congress, which our constitution mandates. that is why it is illegal. not to mention bush has since admitted iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
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Where do you get off calling it illegal?
see above.
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Same with illegals in our country. They are ILLEGAL, period.
we were "illegal" before they were. why does our law have precedence? because we have the bigger guns? what a noble mentality...
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If the borders were shut down, if our Deputies didn't have their hands tied, if our police didn't have their hands tied, and if Ron Paul didn't have his way, we'd shut it down and keep the illegals out. Hence, we'd illiminate most of our crime. Yeah, MOST of our crime.
the less people you have, the less crime there will be. but you would also be kicking out many decent, hard-working people, and in the process sending our country into economic chaos. our service industry would be crippled. businesses and farms would shut down. is that really worth it?
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:43 AM
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This thread is not about iraq. Please calm down and get back on topic.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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we put saddam in power. before we were invited. try reading a history book. our president said our invasion of iraq was due to the terrorist link, initially. we used afghanistan as a stepping stone, remember? the "shock and awe" campaign was the beginning of the war never declared by congress, which our constitution mandates. that is why it is illegal. not to mention bush has since admitted iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. see above. we were "illegal" before they were. why does our law have precedence? because we have the bigger guns? what a noble mentality...

the less people you have, the less crime there will be. but you would also be kicking out many decent, hard-working people, and in the process sending our country into economic chaos. our service industry would be crippled. businesses and farms would shut down. is that really worth it?
Yes; things did happen to indigenous peoples with world over......and, not all so-called 'natives' are of Black or Asian heritage.

The Irish were brutalized by the English for many, many years-------yet, some of the things that the latter left behind in Ireland (the English language, the rule of law, etc) when they finally left in 1922 paid off big time a couple of generations later.

Ireland today is extremely affluent.

As for the so-called 'Hispanics' from Mexico; yes, their mothers were victimized by the Spaniards hundreds of years ago through rape which left the Mestizo descendents 'illegimate'--------yet, Latinos eagerly embrace Hispanic culture.

Now; it is their choice to emulate the more civilized aspects of today's Spanish Hispanic culture------which is already happening.

Plummeting birthrates and much higher average educations levels SOB are but two examples.
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