Racist Myths about Mexican Immigration (green card, visa, birth, ethic)

[pablo-me]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

Why would you wish more war upon anyone? Haven't we Americans waged enough war?

No,. I don't wish war. 'Occupation' would've been a better choice of words. Just a 'helping hand', if you will, to bring prosperity to their country. Every time I fly over Mexico, I see what a beautiful country it is (at least from 39,000 feet) and wish we were one big happy family. When I'm on the ground, in impoverished neighborhoods, I wish it even more.

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by pablo-me

No,. I don't wish war. 'Occupation' would've been a better choice of words. Just a 'helping hand', if you will, to bring prosperity to their country. Every time I fly over Mexico, I see what a beautiful country it is (at least from 39,000 feet) and wish we were one big happy family. When I'm on the ground, in impoverished neighborhoods, I wish it even more.

You can help them by not hating them and shunning their culture, these people are working like slaves for your food to be served.

[chele123]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

It is about Myths, most Mexicans I have seen work their ass off for this country. Actually I have only met 1 or 2 my entire life who have taken welfare. Who's flipping burgers? Who's picking strawberries? Who's cutting the lawns? All Mexicans.Who's living 10 to a 1 bedroom apartment in NYC?

The majority work their ass off and get spit on while our country and companies profit off of their labor. The least we Americans can do is allow these hard working people to have some medical help.

Allow them medical help? Now just WHY would we do that when they already STEAL IT??? You obviously do not work in the medical field. If you did you would see who has medical cards, who has the babies they can not support, and who doesn't pay their bills because we can't even find them! There is no doubt that most IMMIGRANTS that come to this country work hard and become AMERICANS. I also have no doubt that the ILLEGAL ALIENS that come to this country have no intention of becoming AMERICANS, why should they? They steal what they want and have no respect for the United States, her laws, her customs, nor her people.

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by chele123

Allow them medical help? Now just WHY would we do that when they already STEAL IT??? You obviously do not work in the medical field. If you did you would see who has medical cards, who has the babies they can not support, and who doesn't pay their bills because we can't even find them! There is no doubt that most IMMIGRANTS that come to this country work hard and become AMERICANS. I also have no doubt that the ILLEGAL ALIENS that come to this country have no intention of becoming AMERICANS, why should they? They steal what they want and have no respect for the United States, her laws, her customs, nor her people.

That is BS. Why does everyone know how ILLEGAL Mexicans feel about Americans? Just because they demonstrate to have some rights while working in your corn fields? Do you think the company that pays them gives them medical pay? Do you think they pay for their wives to have babies?

I mean they are still considered humans right? Is an employee of this countries company not entitled to rights on US soil?

Of course there are some bad seeds that come here to anchor children, but please don't try to paint that Mythical picture about all hard working illegal mexicans being that way. Go look at a major metro US area, who are doing the hard work? The farms? Construction? mexicans....That is reality and they are getting shafted.

[chele123]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

That is BS. Why does everyone know how ILLEGALS Mexicans feel about Americans? Just because they demonstrate to have some rights while working in your corn fields? Do you think the company that pays them gives them medical pay? Do you think they pay for their wives to have babies?

I mean they are still considered humans right? Is an employee of this countries company not entitled to rights on US soil?

Of course there are some bad seeds that come here to anchor children, but please don't try to paint that Mythical picture about all hard working illegal mexicans being that way. Go look at a major metro US area, who are doing the hard work? The farms? Construction? mexicans....That is reality and they are getting shafted.

Some bad seeds? How about enough "bad seeds" to shut down hospitals! Don't you think Americans are entitled to quality health care? Yet we lose hospitals to the "bad seeds"!
I'm sorry, but arguing construction and farm work with me just won't work. The construction companies in this town are American owned and operated. I live in farm and ranch country. There are very few illegal aliens here. The ones that are are women brought in by ()legally) working men to have their babies here. They enroll in Medicaid and WE PAY THEM to have babies. They do not work because 1. they can not get jobs here and 2. they don't have to work because they are on Medicaid!
How do I know how illegal aliens feel about becoming American? I don't I suppose, because I can't ask them because they don't bother to learn english! They don't bother to become citizens, they don't bother to learn our customs so it appears evident that they don't care about our country or becoming Americans.

[pablo-me]

It's not just the mexicans who are getting 'shafted'. A lot moreAmericans are as well. Do you feel illegal immigrants should get all of the same benefits as legal residents at the taxpayers expense simply because they work here?

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by chele123

Some bad seeds? How about enough "bad seeds" to shut down hospitals! Don't you think Americans are entitled to quality health care? Yet we lose hospitals to the "bad seeds"!
I'm sorry, but arguing construction and farm work with me just won't work. The construction companies in this town are American owned and operated. I live in farm and ranch country. There are very few illegal aliens here. The ones that are are women brought in by ()legally) working men to have their babies here. They enroll in Medicaid and WE PAY THEM to have babies. They do not work because 1. they can not get jobs here and 2. they don't have to work because they are on Medicaid!
How do I know how illegal aliens feel about becoming American? I don't I suppose, because I can't ask them because they don't bother to learn english! They don't bother to become citizens, they don't bother to learn our customs so it appears evident that they don't care about our country or becoming Americans.

Working men...highlighted for you. You said it they are here legally and want to bring their families from 100's miles away. They are working as slaves for the US.

Do our American unskilled workforce have a grand education and know 2 languages?

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by pablo-me

It's not just the mexicans who are getting 'shafted'. A lot moreAmericans are as well. Do you feel illegal immigrants should get all of the same benefits as legal residents at the taxpayers expense simply because they work here?

Well if you are working and making a US company money thus adding to the US GDP, then yes I do. If you are here and not working, then no. If we just gave them working visas much of this nonsense would go away.

[chele123]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

Working men...highlighted for you. You said it they are here legally and want to bring their families from 100's miles away. They are working as slaves for the US.

Do our American unskilled workforce have a grand education and know 2 languages?

Just because the MAN has a work visa does not mean he has the right to bring his pregnant girlfriend into the United States illegally. The men in question are not working any harder than the other employees that are United States Citizens.
Why should our American unskilled workforce have a grand education and know 2 languages? This is the United States, we speak ENGLISH. I don't have a "grand education", that hasn't stopped me from working, acquiring job skills, and being a productive member of society.

[chele123]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

Well if you are working and making a US company money thus adding to the US GDP, then yes I do. If you are here and not working, then no. If we just gave them working visas much of this nonsense would go away.

So the answer to the problem is to just give them what they want and the problem will go away. Well, sorry - but that has been tried - remember the great amnesty of 86? And what was the result of that? More illegal aliens than ever. I don't really see that as a solution to the problem and certainly not worth trying again.