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Old 06-15-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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So you are OK with his going around our deportation/illegal laws to let these undocumented people stay in our country ?

You are OK with this..really ?

Well just don't go spewing any outrage should a Republican get into the Oval Office and start doing the same.
You might be OK with it when YOUR guy is doing it but the next guy just might not be in your party and he'll be doing it as well.
Yes really, I am very much in favor of any President that does what he/she can to help this Country. Point is, this will document them and allow them to continue to contribute to the benefit of this Country. Deporting them makes absolutely no sense. Congress could act to resolve the whole Immigration issue, not for just these kids, but they refuse to do it.

 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, and Nixon's belief that it the POTUS does it it is not illegal, there are rules to be followed. If the president breaks the law, he can be impeached. There is no groundswell in Congress to impeach, so he is on solid ground.

If the Congress had a problem with illegals, they have had years to fix it. All of them, both parties.
Sad but true. The president is only violating protocol, ethics and/or the Constitution if the Congress says so, otherwise he can be a king or a dictator.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Are you asking can a President sign Exec Orders directing agencies, under the control of the Executive Branch, to do or not do certain things? Errr, yes a President can, and this President has several more on deck. Why do you ask?
The President Of The Unites States is directly circumventing the rule of law as well as Congress and therefore the American people by issuing an executive order which directly conflicts with a congressional vote and you have no issue with that? All in the name of votes, eh? As long as he has a D next to his name, eh?
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Yes really, I am very much in favor of any President that does what he/she can to help this Country. Point is, this will document them and allow them to continue to contribute to the benefit of this Country. Deporting them makes absolutely no sense. Congress could act to resolve the whole Immigration issue, not for just these kids, but they refuse to do it.
Which is why we need to kick out the political elites, the senators and members of congress who make this their career. They won't do anything to jeopardize their life long political careers. Unless the people demand that they enforce our immigration laws, they will pander, if they think they can win reelection.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Obama doesn't even speak to congress anymore. I remember reading an article a while back the democrats in congress were complaigning because they hadn't talked to anybody in the white house for months. He rules by exec order or his czar's running certain agencies, the EPA for example. This man is a tyrant and should be removed from office in my opinion. Doesn't respect the law (ignored DOMA and judge ruling of offshore drilling) and does not respect the Constitution one bit. This is the hope and change we got.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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The President Of The Unites States is directly circumventing the rule of law as well as Congress and therefore the American people by issuing an executive order which directly conflicts with a congressional vote and you have no issue with that? All in the name of votes, eh? As long as he has a D next to his name, eh?
I'm sure the left only like rule by exec order because their orator is in office.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes really, I am very much in favor of any President that does what he/she can to help this Country. Point is, this will document them and allow them to continue to contribute to the benefit of this Country. Deporting them makes absolutely no sense. Congress could act to resolve the whole Immigration issue, not for just these kids, but they refuse to do it.
And just how can illegals, who can't get jobs after they graduate, going to "help this country" ?
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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The President Of The Unites States is directly circumventing the rule of law as well as Congress and therefore the American people by issuing an executive order which directly conflicts with a congressional vote and you have no issue with that? All in the name of votes, eh? As long as he has a D next to his name, eh?
He's right, you know. All presidents have had this power, it's just that Obama is abusing it like none before him.

We need to eliminate this unaccountable, unelected, fourth branch of government, and force the Congress to do it's job.

My opinion is that agencies like the EPA should be defanged, and all they should be able to do is recommend new regulations and never be allowed act on their own to force drastic changes in the way we live. We have allowed them the power to destroy the entire coal industry, and run roughshod over the health insurance industry.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama doesn't even speak to congress anymore. I remember reading an article a while back the democrats in congress were complaigning because they hadn't talked to anybody in the white house for months. He rules by exec order or his czar's running certain agencies, the EPA for example. This man is a tyrant and should be removed from office in my opinion. Doesn't respect the law (ignored DOMA and judge ruling of offshore drilling) and does not respect the Constitution one bit. This is the hope and change we got.
Very true. Congress just found out about his secret trade agreements proposal and are ticked off.
Been secret for 2 years and they found out when it got leaked.

LOL...Congress didn't like that Obama is promising waivers to US laws/regulations and an international tribunal to make the decision. Totally leaves Congress twiddling their thumbs here.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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I'm sure the left only like rule by exec order because their orator is in office.
The blind partisanship by some democrats in these forums is stunningly obvious.
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