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Old 06-15-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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I'm suprised nobody threw out the race card. When all else fails!

 
Old 06-15-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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thebunny, do you live in a city that is overrun by illegals?

I'm 100% against illegal immigration and the hiring of illegals. It makes me angry to see other American business people who would rather pay an illegal $3/hour instead of hiring a US citizen.
An illegal is just that..Illegal. It is doing great damage to this country. Not to mention the injustice shown to others who stand in line,abide by the law, and spend a lot of money to become LEGAL CITIZENS. There is nothing good or right in defending those that come here illegally. They are law breakers, plain and simple. A person may have empathy for their plight because an illegal`s own country can`t support them. But go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. Go to any other country illegally and try to get on the government dole and see what happens. Americans need to stand up for themselves and their country and demand this lawlessness be stopped. But they won`t. Other countries would not put up with this. But we do.
Heck, the libs don`t even want people checked out before they vote. Why? Because they know that people will always vote for those that promise them free stuff. So illegals can come in and vote for those that will give them stuff and they aren`t even citizens of this country. How ludicrous is that? It`s all done in a very slow methodical deliberate way. This country is going to hell in a hand basket and people are clueless. They are too busy watching American Idol and talking on their smart phones to even know who the politicans are that they vote for. They get their knowledge from the liberal media headlines and that`s all they know. They let the media define who they vote for. So if you vote for someone that allows this to go on, then you only have youself to blame.
This country started on the economic decline in the last years of Bush and have gotten even worse with Obama`s failed policies. I truly believe he is in over his head and doesn`t have the knowledge or leadership skills to help get this turned around. But people got caught up in the media frenzy and the whole hope and change hoopla and now look. That`s what happens when you don`t know who you are voting for other than what the media tells you.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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I'm suprised nobody threw out the race card. When all else fails!
Give it some time.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:01 PM
 
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1) Hopefully the media (yeah, right) will hold Romney's feet to the fire on this and Maybe get him to say he'll UNdo it.

2) Obama said they won't be deported -- that's doesn't make them LEGAL -- not does it make them citizens (nor resident aliens) -- so they still shouldn't VOTE.

3) Hopefully also, Florida will win its case to check voters legitimacy to be eligible to vote.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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An illegal is just that..Illegal. It is doing great damage to this country. Not to mention the injustice shown to others who stand in line,abide by the law, and spend a lot of money to become LEGAL CITIZENS. There is nothing good or right in defending those that come here illegally. They are law breakers, plain and simple. A person may have empathy for their plight because an illegal`s own country can`t support them. But go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. Go to any other country illegally and try to get on the government dole and see what happens. Americans need to stand up for themselves and their country and demand this lawlessness be stopped. But they won`t. Other countries would not put up with this. But we do.
Heck, the libs don`t even want people checked out before they vote. Why? Because they know that people will always vote for those that promise them free stuff. So illegals can come in and vote for those that will give them stuff and they aren`t even citizens of this country. How ludicrous is that? It`s all done in a very slow methodical deliberate way. This country is going to hell in a hand basket and people are clueless. They are too busy watching American Idol and talking on their smart phones to even know who the politicans are that they vote for. They get their knowledge from the liberal media headlines and that`s all they know. They let the media define who they vote for. So if you vote for someone that allows this to go on, then you only have youself to blame.
This country started on the economic decline in the last years of Bush and have gotten even worse with Obama`s failed policies. I truly believe he is in over his head and doesn`t have the knowledge or leadership skills to help get this turned around. But people got caught up in the media frenzy and the whole hope and change hoopla and now look. That`s what happens when you don`t know who you are voting for other than what the media tells you.
You have no idea what you are talking about when you blame "Libs" when plenty of "Conservative" businessman are hiring cheap labor in the U.S. and overseas.
Republicans want to destroy unions and eliminate minimum wages and you think they are against the availability of cheap labor?
Then they want to take away Medicare and Social Security for U.S. citizens who need those programs for healthcare and income.
Unemployment benefits are only for U.S citizens but many Repubs want those Americans drug tested first.

There is 0 government protection for the AMERICAN middle class in any republican policy.
Republicans fought harder against government programs for Americans than they do against government programs for illegals.

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Old 06-15-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about when you blame "Libs" when plenty of "Conservative" businessman are hiring cheap labor in the U.S. and overseas.

Conservatives want to destroy unions and eliminate minimum wages and you think they are against the availability of cheap labor?
Right.

Illegal immigration is one of those issues where you can neither hold a conservative or liberal view.

Some liberals think the illegals should be given a break and have the opportunity to experience what us Americans experience (human rights). Other liberals feel we should kick them out to protect the progressive rights of workers.

Some conservatives think the illegals can be used to lower their labor cost and want them to stay. Other conservatives think they and their children drain us of our tax dollars through social programs and should go.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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Agree. Not sure what is wrong with the idea that productive members of society should be allowed to stay.
you assume by race/citizenship that they aren't being productive?
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:38 PM
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I agree that both political parties have contributed to this attack on the American citizens. The trouble is that if law and order does not prevail everybody is the loser. It is the average middle class citizen that is being cheated by this situation. It needs to stop. Amnesty once did nothing to help. It just encouraged more to invade and it is an invasion and many times a hostile one. NO MORE AMNESTY and the cuddling needs to stop. Give them a month to clear out if they are not citizens and then start arresting the ones that are left.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 10:53 PM
 
Location: California
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you assume by race/citizenship that they aren't being productive?
I do not appreciate being attacked when I have said nothing but the opposite. Please reread my posts. Oh, and while rereading, be certain to look up the definition of sarcasm.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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These people deserve to be here. This country was built on immigration and immigration will continue to be a big driving force. I don't understand the connection between illegal immigrants and unemployment. They are mainly going for low end jobs that unless you are a high school dropout you should not be bother with applying to.
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